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2004-06-23 DRB MinutesDRB Minutes June 23, 2004 Page 1 of 4 DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MEETING MINUTES JUNE 23, 2004 A regular meeting of the Salem Design Review Board (DRB) was held in the third floor conference room at the City Hall Annex, 120 Washington Street, on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 at 6:00pm. Members David Jaquith, Chris Greene and Paul Durand were present. Tania Hartford, Economic Development Planner and Valerie Gingrich, Clerk, were also present. Minutes Minutes from the May 26, 2004 meeting were reviewed and approved. Old Business Ms. Hartford stated that there are three items of old business before the board. First, the light specification for The Barking Cat will be exactly like that of Elixir. She passed out a picture of the light. The members agreed that the lights are good. Ms. Hartford stated that the sign maker for Sacred & Folk will be emailing Mr. Durand to double check the sign supports prior to hanging the sign. Lastly, Ms. Hartford stated that the hanging sign for Il Bocca Italiana is very small and is not the same size as the other signs on the street. She explained that the owner will be aided by the storefront improvement program to be able to get a larger sign. She stated that the sign was permitted as it hangs, but the sign should be larger and it was our mistake that it is not. Mr. Durand commented that the sign is too small and that the board probably assumed that a proposal for a smaller sign is not bad, but in this case it does not look appropriate. Ms. Hartford stated that they will use the same design, but make it the size of the YMCA sign (2’ x 3’) up the street from Il Bocca Italiana. The members agreed with the proposal. Ms. Hartford stated that she will put the proposal on the next SRA agenda. Project list 24 New Derby Street (Craftisans)—Review of proposed signage at 24 New Derby Street (Artists Row). Ms. Hartford explained the Artists Row program, which allows artists to use the Market Place stalls for the summer in exchange for community workshops. She stated that the Craftisians is a cooperative of about 20 artists. Ms. Hartford introduced the applicant, Lisa Murphy, who described the proposal, which includes the installation of two 18” x 22” wall signs, with one on the wall of the building facing the throughway at Artists Row and one facing New Derby Street. The sign would be painted on wood and attached to the brick on the building. DRB Minutes June 23, 2004 Page 2 of 4 Mr. Durand asked if there is a standard for signage in the program, or if the different groups are allowed to propose whatever they wish. Ms. Hartford stated that the different groups can have different proposals. Ms. Murphy explained that the sign will be unstained wood in the shape of a pallet. Mr. Greene asked the dimensions of the sign. Ms. Murphy stated that the sign will be 18” x 22” but it is cut in the pallet shape, so it is actually less than that. Mr. Greene asked the dimension across the brick portion of where she is proposing hanging the sign. Ms. Murphy replied that she does not know the dimension exactly, but the sign does fit in proposed location with space on each side. Mr. Greene commented that the wall space is limited and may be a tight fit. Mr. Jaquith stated that the eves on the buildings are low and that is why they had signposts. Ms. Hartford explained that signage is limited in this area because last year the sign posts were cut down by mistake. Due to the short season of the program, it is unclear if the sign posts will be replaced. The members agreed that the sign should be installed on the brick section of the building. Mr. Jaquith questioned the style of the sign because it looks temporary and asked if the sign has been made. Ms. Murphy stated that the sign has been made and she will go get the sign and bring it in for the board to look at because the sign looks better than on the drawing. Mr. Greene stated that they need to look at what the sign will really look like. Ms. Murphy left to get the sign. 18 Crombie Street—Review of the Final Design Plans for the redevelopment and restoration of 18 Crombie Street for use as a single-family affordable home. Ms. Hartford introduced the applicants, Mr. Warren Sawyer, and his architect, Mr. John Goff. Mr. Goff explained the proposal, which includes the redevelopment and restoration of the home at 18 Crombie Street with exterior changes that include the addition of windows, window replacement, removal of existing shingles and replacement with clapboards, and landscaping in the adjacent yard. Mr. Jaquith asked the differences from the schematic proposal. Mr. Goff explained that there are no changes, but they now have paint colors. Mr. Greene asked if there are any additional details on the site work. Mr. Goff stated that the site will basically be a lawn. He added that the porch that was chosen was the smaller minimal porch. Mr. Jaquith stated that he has no problem with the design but he does not like the color. Mr. Goff explained that they are proposing a blue-grey with cream trim, similar to other buildings in the surrounding area. Mr. Durand commented that the white may be too cream. Mr. Goff explained that they used it on the Bowditch House and it turned out great. All members agreed that the paint should be glossy. They agreed that the fence color should be the same as the house trim. DRB Minutes June 23, 2004 Page 3 of 4 Mr. Goff explained that the wood shingles will be removed to expose the clapboards underneath. They will then see the condition of the clapboards to determine if they can just seal them. He stated that they plan to replace them as necessary and scrape and paint them. Mr. Jaquith asked if the window shown is a dummy window. Mr. Goff stated that it is a real window with black plywood behind it. Mr. Green asked about the colors of the fence and porch. Mr. Goff stated that the fence will match the house trim and the porch will be a grey color. Mr. Goff showed the board members the plaque layout. Ms. Hartford asked if that is the final design of the plaque. Mr. Goff stated that it is a draft layout. The board members discussed the history of the brook located in the area. Mr. Greene stated that he does not want to approve the marker because the layout is too wordy, and therefore the applicant will have to come back for approval of the plaque. Mr. Jaquith asked about the fascia and the bulkhead. Mr. Goff stated that the fascia will be copper and the bulkhead will have to be rebuilt. All members agreed that the plans look good and recommended approval of the Final Design Plans except that the applicant must return for approval of the marker. 24 New Derby Street (Craftisans)—Continued. Mr. Greene commented that the lettering looks amateur, which he stated is probably not what they want to portray. Mr. Greene asked what type of art was sold at the shop. Ms. Murphy stated that they have sculpture, pottery, painting, watercolors, jewelry, blown glass, and other types of work. Mr. Greene stated that he doesn’t oppose handwriting where appropriate. Mr. Jaquith asked if the signs will be permanently mounted on the building. Ms. Murphy stated that there are existing nails in the brick, on which the signs will be hung. Mr. Jaquith stated that he is willing to let it go. Mr. Greene stated that the lettering is not spaced in the best way and the lettering is not easily read, but he is willing to let it go, as well. Mr. Jaquith asked how long the signs will be up. Ms. Hartford stated that the program ends in November. In the winter, a Call for Artists will be released for next year’s season. Mr. Jaquith stated that if the group applies again, the sign must be changed. The sign should be clearer next time, especially because “craftisians” is not a word. The members recommended approval of the sign as a temporary sign until November. DRB Minutes June 23, 2004 Page 4 of 4 24 New Derby Street (Jennifer Admire Designs)—Review of proposed signage at 24 New Derby Street (Artists Row). Ms. Hartford stated that the applicant, Jennifer Admire, is not here but the proposal includes the installation of a 3’ x 3’ wall sign on the wall of the building facing Front Street. The sign would be wood with a white background and black letters. Mr. Greene stated that the lettering is too small and there is too much space between the lines. He suggested that “Jennifer” be moved down a ¼ of an inch, “Design” move up ¼ of an inch and the letters can stay the same size. Mr. Greene stated that the sign is a vertical layout, so it should be on a 2’ x 3’ sign. Ms. Hartford asked if the sign should have a border. The members stated that it should not. The members recommended approval of the sign with the revisions. 24 New Derby Street (Gem & I Originals)—Review of proposed signage at 24 New Derby Street (Artists Row). Ms. Hartford stated that the applicant, Keri Gleason, is not here but the proposal includes the installation of a 3’ x 3’ wall sing on the wall of the building facing the throughway at Artists Row. The sign would be wood with a white background and black letters. Mr. Greene stated that you cannot tell that the “I” was an I, so he rearranged the letters so that “Gem & I” are on one line and “originals” was on the line directly below. The members agreed that the sign should be 2’ x 3’ like Jennifer Admire’s sign. They also requested that the lettering for the word “by” should be a lower case “b”. 289 Derby Street (Coastal Gas Station)—Review of the Final Design Plans for the redevelopment of 289 Derby Street (Coastal Gas Station) into a mixed-use building. Ms. Hartford explained that the applicant requested to be continued to the next meeting. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned