2017-12-19 DRB MinutesCity of Salem Massachusetts
Public Meeting Minutes
Board or Committee: Design Review Board, Regular Meeting
Date and Time: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 6:00 pm
Meeting Location: 120 Washington Street, Third Floor Conference
Room
DRB Members Present: Chair Paul Durand, Ernest DeMaio, David Jaquith,
Helen Sides, J. Michael Sullivan
DRB Members Absent: Chris Dynia, Glenn Kennedy
Others Present: Tom Devine, Senior Planner
Recorder: Colleen Brewster
Chair Paul Durand calls the meeting to order at 6:10PM. Roll call was taken.
Urban Renewal Area Projects Under Review
1. 120 Washington Street (Peabody Block LLC c/o RCG LLC): Discussion and vote on
proposed deck and entryway area.
Andrew Zimmerman of RCG, LLC, Jim Gagnon, and Pete Pitman (Project Architect)
were present to discuss the project.
Zimmerman stated that they received approval from the DRB in June, and from the SRA
in July, but the decisions required coming back for review of the entry and deck. The
retail will remain on the first floor. The project consists of 14 new residential units on the
upper floors and a new roof deck at the upper interior corner at the three commercial
roof top areas. The SRA feedback was to provide; 1) additional detail on roof deck, 2) a
dark stain on deck, and 3) a front deck paving treatment at the ramp up and into the
building.
Pitman stated that the roof deck will not extend all the way across the roof due to an
area with existing rooftop equipment. It will be a common area used by all tenants, will
be made accessible, and be accessed with French doors. The existing façade pilaster
and paneling details at grade are replicated to continue the façade pattern above. The
newel posts will be robust and aligned with the pilasters below. The handrail will be a
pre-engineered system painted white. The decking will also be a composite for easy
maintenance with a dark stain, and a consistent edge line will be created at the roof
even in areas where there is no deck. The deck was not pulled further away from the
roof edge as to not complicate the structural design within existing tenant spaces and
because it would be seen no matter where it is located on the roof. Sconces will be
added around the deck perimeter to provide light instead of the previously proposed wall
packs.
Pitman stated that the goal at the main entry was to deinstitutionalize the entrance and
make it more intimate and inviting. Much of the hard surfaces will be removed, but a
central accessible route entry will remain. English-Ivy planting beds with corten steel
surrounds will be added on either side of the entry. New galvanized steel railings with
pickets to be painted matte black will be added. The wainscoting paneling will be
removed, new recessed lighting added in the soffit, and a new storefront entry consisting
of frameless vision glass, sidelites, and transom and a magnetized frameless door with
stainless steel ladder pulls will be installed. There will be new branding, and exterior
painted tenant list, and an interior facelift in the lobby. The exposed brick façade will be
painted white and will continue to the outside entry wall.
Jaquith stated that the pilasters on Drawing A-5 look too large and Sides agrees.
Jaquith stated that the lighting at deck perimeter looks out of place and could be
swapped for downlights. Sides and Durand agree that downlights will illuminate and not
project light. Jaquith stated that the front entry handrail should wrap around towards the
back-side railings or could continue to the side walls. Sullivan suggested that the green
space on the left go up to the storefront as well as the railing. Pitman replied that the
entry door will swing to the left and a tenant call box will be wall mounted on the right.
Jaquith stated that the directory should be mounted on something and not painted on the
wall so tenant names can be easily changed. Jaquith added that the green spaces may
not last with the lack of sun on that side of Washington Street.
Jaquith noted that the pendant style “120” building address needs to mounted level as
the single rods may not last. Durand added that the rods could be bent easily if they
were to be hit and suggested that the numbers be applied to the glass. Zimmerman
suggested decals that the light can still illuminate.
Sides voiced concern with the proposed painted trim wall being the only thing that
separates it from the brick. Pitman replied that what’s behind the wall could be
problematic as it is possible that the wainscoting may be there to hide the condition
underneath. Sides suggested a simplified panel to match the new simplified look and a
washed brick instead of a full coat of paint. Zimmerman replied that the wall reveal will
also be at the interior but separated by vision glass. Pitman replied that they can carry
the wash all the way through into the Lobby to show the beauty of the old brick, and
during demolition, if more than a wash is required, they will return to the DRB. They can
also resubmit for the deck light fixture. Jaquith suggested a wall mounted rectangular
can light at the deck to wash the wall with light. Pitman proposed that to get light
towards the center of the deck, recessed lights be added to the interior face of the newel
posts. No board members opposed this suggestion. DeMaio noted that exterior lights
could affect the residential units across the street. Pitman replied that he can submit a
lighting package for review. Jaquith suggested including several waterproof outlets at the
deck.
Sullivan asked how the railings engage the existing second floor walls. Pitman replied
that it is with a rosette. DeMaio asked where the membrane terminates. Pitman replied
that the membrane will not be visible from the street, but be concealed with copper
flashing, and the roof below the new deck will slope towards internal drains.
Durand asked about proposed furnishings and noted that the fenced edge will help
conceal the furnishings and provide a private space. Despite furniture not being shown
on the plan, he wouldn’t want to see any umbrellas or tall items, only low table heights
and chairs. Pitman agreed from a liability standpoint and stated that only standard table
heights would be used.
Chair Durand opens public comment.
No one in the assembly wished to speak.
Chair Durand closes public comment.
Sides: Motion to approve deck and entryway with the following conditions:
1. Deck newel posts shall be narrowed.
2. Deck furniture are restricted to standard table height or lower.
3. Replace proposed deck sconce lights with white can downlight sconce, which may
be located on deck side of newel posts as long as they face downward toward deck
surface.
4. Replace hanging metal address numbers at building entrance with decal on transom
window.
5. Whitewash brick on northern entry wall instead of painting white. Return to DRB and
SRA with alternate treatment if conditions do not allow this.
6. Replace stenciled directory at entrance with attached lettering that can be swapped
out with changing tenants.
Seconded by: DeMaio. Passes 5-0.
2. 30 Church Street (East Regiment Beer Company): Discussion and vote on proposed
signage (sign permit) and outdoor seating area (café permit) scheme.
Scott Perry, part owner of East Regiment Beer Company, was present to discuss the
project.
Devine stated that the City has reviewed the sign permit applicant and confirmed that it
complies with all dimensional standards.
Perry presented color samples for the awning in a “Forest Green” and the fencing to
separate the tap room from the public will be a mild steel railing. The signage arm will
be wrought iron provided by Peabody Sign Co. Details on the anchors secured to the
brick have been submitted. The lighting will not be mounted to the corner of the tower
as to not bother the residential neighbors, but will be over the tap room area. Lighting
within the tent will be string Edison bulbs over the seating area and pendant lights over
the bar.
Sides asked for clarification on the items proposed. Perry replied that the awning panels
will cover the entire tap room during the winter. Sides had no issue with the lighting and
furniture. Perry noted that the furniture will be either collapsible or stackable and the
tables can be pulled apart since there is limited floor space. Perry said the sides of the
enclosure will be closed during the winter and roll up and stay out of sight the other three
seasons. The roof will stay on all year round. Low intensity natural gas heaters will have
sufficient clearance below the underside of the awning to operate. The railing can be
welded metal or wood with wood beams and paneling at the wall, as the corrugated
metal was not well received. A wooden shelf will be on top, and he will build the pieces
himself. Sides replied that the wood fencing could be too rustic and prefers an option
with more transparency. She noted that the she has no issue with the shelf and bar stop.
Sides asked how the different elements attach to one another. Perry replied that a shop
drawing was provided.
Jaquith stated that the awning support is low at 7 feet above the deck is low and
suggested a 7’-6” minimum. The existing path has forced the tap room area to not be a
perfect rectangle, which would require a change in the pitch at each awning support
member, but the shop drawing provided shows the awning as perfectly square. The top
of the awning must remain parallel to the brick and that detail must be worked out. Perry
replied that they have 4 feet of additional height above the top of the proposed awning to
raise it up. DeMaio asked how the awning will terminate at the face of the building.
Perry replied that it is with a metal clip secured to the face of the wall and sealed behind
the clip to ensure that it’s weatherproof. Sullivan asked if there will be any additional
drawings. Perry replied that they are overbudget on planning and hope to put additional
money towards the construction and the document provided is their only shop drawing.
Jaquith stated that he would want to see awning shop drawings DeMaio stated that the
proposed design has a suburban strip mall feel and the fabric structures should be more
elegantly put together. Durand suggested a color change from Forest Green to a subtler
Pebble Tweed.
Sides suggests a mock-up of how it would be constructed and to see the fittings, edge
condition, and overhangs, to ensure the end result isn’t primitive. Durand stated that
quality control is a concern since this is a permanent structure made with temporary
materials near the heart of downtown Salem. The Board is used to seeing more details
and realistic renderings. Perry compared his proposed structure to the Lobster Shanty
and noted that the proposed design seems very temporary because they intend to put
the bulk of their money into their product. Sullivan suggested Perry review what the
Lobster Shanty provided to know what the DRB is used to receiving and noted that this
location deserves a well-thought-out design, flooring materials, access transition from
sidewalk to the ramp, and visuals of the complete design. Perry stated that the awning
company is aware of the existing conditions and they can provide better renderings.
Sullivan stated that the numerous options are appreciated; however, they would
appreciate a more definitive design rather than expecting them to select things for the
applicant. Sides stated that there needs to be a unified vision of what it will actually look
like, though the direction seems acceptable. Sides suggested that Perry build a 4-foot
section and provide photos and examples of similar ones on Newbury Street. Any
signage integrated into the structure should also be provided. Perry stated that he will
return with better shop drawings showing the irregular supports and how they will be laid
out and supported, as well as the drink shelf and how it meets the supports. Sullivan
suggested that a cross-section be provide that also shows the transitions to the
sidewalk.
Chair Durand opens public comment.
No one in the assembly wished to speak.
Chair Durand closes public comment.
Jaquith: Motion to continue to the January 24, 2018 meeting.
Seconded by: Durand. Sullivan 5-0.
3. 9-11 Dodge Street, 217-219 Washington Street, and 231-251 Washington Street
(Hampton Inn, Mixed-Use Development Project): Discussion and vote on proposed
revisions to final design
Attorney Thomas Alexander of Alexander & Femino, Drew Queen, Project Architect, and
Ken McClure were present to discuss the project.
Tom Devine read a December 19, 2017 email from Historic Salem, Inc. written by Emily
Udy and Jennifer Firth.
Atty. Alexander stated that changes have been made to the plan based on the previous
DRB recommendations. While they respectfully understand that Historic Salem may
have their opinions on this project they have not had the benefit of their input on this
project up to this point. McClure stated that all of the materials on this project are
premium grade and they have used the DRB’s previous comments to move the project
forward.
Queen stated that at the corner of Washington and Dodge Streets they’ve revised
signage band so it is no longer a smooth surface, but now has masonry with some
delineation where the signage band would occur. There is a simple horizontal cornice
band that sticks out about 18” and reconciles the various depth changes of the panels in
the upper floors of the façade. Awnings were added to the images to create a more
pedestrian friendly atmosphere as well as outdoor seating and umbrellas.
Queen stated that for the transition area of the façade, between the corner element and
the brick residential façade of Washington Street, the third of three options was selected
with a metal shingle, which is the same material used around the corner on Dodge
Street.
Queen noted that the floor plans are preliminary construction documents. Level one is
the hotel with stepped commercial units. Parking level 2 will be valet only. Parking level
2 and building level 2 will be parking, hotel rooms, and residential units. Parking level 3
will be accessed off of the upper portion of Washington Street.
Durand stated that the board gave them direct items to address after last meeting and
the proposed materials are high quality and will look better than the letter from Historic
Salem predicts. The bulk of the items were approved. The elevation images have come
a long way from their flat façade concerns. He is not sold on awnings, which look too
simple. Sides asked what the corner material would be. Queen replied a polished
masonry. DeMaio asked about the setback distance of the thin cornice line to the face
of the darker façade above. Queen replied that it is 4” with an overall depth of 12”, with
the corner being at a zero plane. The 4” ledge will be a sloped metal roof material with a
hemmed edge out ACM, an alum composite material with tight joints. The cornice
projection at that corner will be 18” at the underside and above above the awnings. The
light thin band is the aluminum composite and the dark gray above it the cembrit panel.
DeMaio asked why there are spandrel panels between the windows of the deep
recesses at the upper façade of Dodge Street but not along Washington Street. Queen
replied that the previously approved window arrangement was duplicated.
Sides stated that she liked a different style of window being used at the transition wall.
DeMaio agrees, but noted that he doesn’t like the panel color at that section and would
prefer the shingle color on the other side. Sides added that option A too complicated to
make the clear break and option C is too similar. Queen replied that option B is a
window wall system with glass down to floor and a metal piece covering the 8” thick, and
two grilles for the HVAC unit at either side of the edge in a charcoal color. All Board
members prefer option B.
Sides stated that the red awning at the restaurant is distracting and grey or maroon
would blend better with the building. Durand suggested using only umbrellas at the
tables. Sullivan noted that awnings are a conventional treatment at each window bay
and whatever treatment is used should either be continuous and wrap around the
building or not be used at all. The Board members agreed.
Sullivan asked that the landscaping in front be addressed. Queen replied that the
paving was a previously approved in two different colors of grey, there are steps and the
number of risers vary based on the slope of the grade, and there are L-shaped
groupings of granite blocks that are the retaining walls. The patterns and landscaping of
the previous version would remain.
Queen presented a sample of the corner masonry material that will be full bed depth,
4”D x 24”L x 8”H. Durand suggested a dark grey/charcoal or black awning to pick up
some of the tones in the corner material. DeMaio stated that he still has concerns with
the double window on Washington Street with the spandrel, and would prefer that it be
recessed to match the others. The single set of windows could also be setback.
DeMaio stated that the thin cornice is a material that comes from nowhere and requires
more detail. It projects 18”, angles 45 degrees, and has a roof. Jaquith added that the
top will have a slope that is visible in addition to the 4” extension beyond the panel
above it. Queen replied that it could be on the same plane. DeMaio added that this
feels like a contemporary box sitting on a classical base and the corner feels different.
The color, material, and depth changes are a concern which he believes is what was
being addressed in the letter submitted from Historic Salem. Sides believes the cornice
wants to match the color at the restaurant below and to be a part of ground floor.
DeMaio asked if the masonry corner material can be made into a coping. Durand stated
that the color could be charcoal like the awnings. Sides stated that this prominent corner
and the weight of the upper portion on top of that corner is important. DeMaio noted that
it’s a fourth material being added. It’s the thinnest, has the most changes in plane, is a
roof, is made of metal that won’t be as uniform and reliable of a surface because, and it
will have seams so it won’t look like it does in the rendering. Sides asked Queen for
alternate material for the cornice. Queen suggested a glass fiber reinforced concrete
(GFRC) with no joints that can be molded into different shapes. Sides suggested that
the color match the dark color of the stonework and be a solid material, but they’d need
a sample and more information. DeMaio stated that its execution is important.
Sullivan added that there are structural elements that don’t associate with what’s above
and the columns are disjointed in many different cases which make it difficult to
understand. At the pedestrian level it is good to embrace the street and he is in favor of
the undulation of the façade, but there needs to be some unification, consistency, and a
pattern.
Durand stated that the restaurant entry at the corner is not prominent and a recessed
entry or separate awning could make it stand out since it looks like all the other window
openings. Sullivan noted that the Army Barracks door is setback from the corner. Sides
noted that the awning could have the name of the restaurant to indicate the entrance.
Durand suggested a wrap corner that is treated differently. Sullivan asked if the corner
is rectangular structurally. Queen replied yes. Sides stated that the cornice is more of a
concern than the transparent ground level.
Chair Durand opens public comment.
Josh Turiel, Ward 5 City Councilor. He was in favor of the initial design with two
separate buildings to reduce its mass and make it more of a natural fit to the
neighborhood. The Washington & Dodge Street corner has been a concern he became
comfortable with, but the newly proposed corner resembles more Manhattan than
Salem. Something should be done to give it a more small city character, possibly
changing some elements of the cube, more ornamental pieces, or color changes. This
corner doesn’t fit and the Board did a good job pointing out those inconsistencies.
Tim Jenkins 18 Broad Street. He agrees the previous comments that the Washington &
Dodge Street corner seems bland, the awnings and their color don’t work, and there is a
lack of detail. Atty. Alexander replied that the previous design couldn’t be built
economically and they are concerned with timing because they would like to break
ground in the spring. He suggested a conditional approval with the cornice subject to
further review and approval, and acknowledged that the design won’t be perfect for
everyone, with some board members wanting it more contemporary and others less
contemporary.
Jaquith asked if there would be a review of the working drawings. Durand replied that
the design is close although the renderings don’t match the look of the materials . The
concern is the material and color at the cornice, but the materials are high quality. Sides
stated the project could move forward; however, the cornice should be a solid material
like the GFRC with some weight to it, because DeMaio’s concerns are accurate.
DeMaio noted that with a contemporary design the cornice needs a clean execution and
the pieces simplified, but the material, color, and execution are the most important at the
cornice. Durand suggested a conditional approval.
Durand questioned where the public parking would be located. McClure replied that
they did a number of studies and their goal is to maintain the residential on the top floor,
hotel on the second, and public on the first and to keep them separate for security. They
can continue to study it moving forward if necessary.
Sides: Motion to approve with the following conditions:
• The DRB approves option B for the transitional building segment between the
hotel and mixed residential/commercial portions of the building.
• The top two floors of third column of windows on the Washington St. elevation
shall be recessed in the same manner as the top two floors of the rightmost
column of windows on the Dodge St. elevation.
• Applicant shall return to the DRB and SRA for review of revised plans for the
restaurant corner awning and cornice.
Seconded by: Jaquith. Passes 5-0.
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Jaquith: Motion to approve the meeting schedule for 2018.
Seconded by: Sides. Passes 5-0.
Adjournment
Jaquith: Motion to adjourn the meeting.
Seconded by: Sides. Passes 5-0.
Meeting is adjourned at 8:00PM.
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