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SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES 'Salem Historical Commission XnWTES 1991 u 0 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES Jaduary 2, 1541. ; y A regular meeting of the Salem Historical: Commission was held on Wednesday, January 2, 1991 at 7Q0 P.M. at One Salem Green , Salem, MA. in attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Fierce, Mr. Hedstrom, Mr, Carr- .and 'Me, Guy. It was noted` that all four „rotes would be needed .in order to pass on applications, 174 Federal Street r " r in continuation from a previous meeting , Donald Wallace applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for restaining the body in existing colors, Cabot Out Driftwood Grey for the body with slate trim, with white°to:remain white at 174 r Federal Street . Mr, Wallace was not present . Mr . Carr motioned to continue the 7application and that a letter be sent to Mr. Wallace requiring that he be at the next meeting or the commission will be compelled- to deny the repainting. Mr. Fierce seconded ;the motion, All were in favor and so the motion carried. •14 Broad Street '.Evelyn Filum and Stephen Thomas, applied' for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a. fence Qpalone, their front property line with a wilkway gate. Drawings were submitted. Mr. Carr stated that he was delighted with most of the proposed fence, but felt that it .might be inappropriate to have a carving an the gate, Mr. Fierce stated that he felt it was not inappropriate to have a carving but 'felt the scale may be4 oo large. . . Mr, Fierce stated that the drawings show a double gate. Mr. Carr motioned to approve installation of fenre as per drawing submitted with gate #1 as proposed for walkaway gate, and alternate gate top # ' continued until the next- meeting of ` .January ib, 1551 and applicant should submit a scaled down version of the gate with detailed drawings. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 7 L= Street Robin and Arthur Bell applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of the driveway gate, . fncludin^g a three foot. =_.ection next to the house; a nine foot section to be left in an open position to accommodate daily January 2, 1991 Page traffic on the driveway, but will -be capable of connecting with the three foot section enclosing the yard. The I I I , permanent position of the gate will follow the contour of the driveway,,appror,ima.tely at a 120 degree angle. Drawings ' � were'submitted . Mr. Carr',ingUired as to whether the fence will have posts. Mr. Bell 'expressed his concerns in the cost of the fence. Patty Roik:a and Jeff P.oika of 3, Lynn Street , neiahbors`to the ' applicant , were present at the meeting and stated that the fence recently fell down . + 1 Ii Mr. Carr stated that now wo_ridube� thei ieto make the fence appropriate by putting in posts on eiEher side of the driveway. . Mr, 'Bell stated that he would match what is already there. Chairman Harris stated that two posts would be better with a top on it . Ms; Roika "thought Mr. Bell intended to build .a. taller fence blocking light to her 'house. t Mr. Bell stated that the fence would not be taller, Mr. Carr explained that it would be a continuation of -an existing fence, Mr. Carr motioned to deny the application but would favor an approval or`, a rine foot opening. with double gates and with posts at either ,side and to invite the applicant to .reapply. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . - - 116'118.Federal_ Street Condos: Goldenberg, Hammond , .Conrad, Y Brien and Bailey applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of front entrance post and gate. Replacement post to be r moved about one font west which lines it up with existing brick walk border for a more balanced appropriate look . Proposed post and gate the same as syle as existing , with a half or full post attached to the house. Three options were shown, Mr. Carr motioned to continue the application because Mr. Hedstrom abstained from,voting and there would not be four votes in order to pass on the application . Mr . Pierre seconded the motion. , All ,were in favor and so the motion carried. 29 Chestnut Street Jacqueline and Jill Wannemacher applied for .a 'Certificate of y Mon-Applicability for reconstruction of fence at rear of property with fence to be indenticai in style and color to, the original`. 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Mr. Carr was concerned how grading 'will •be done without creating a wall . Mr. Hedstrom "was concerned -if the windows will provide'enough light . e Chairman Harris left the meeting . Mr. Pierce suggested recessed openings without glazing in gym area so as not to have glare. Mr. Carr .asked about replication and stated that he 'tikes the idea of the first set of plans that show that they try not to replicate all of the windows in the main- b_tilding. Mr. Carr questioned the introduction of new materi& of concrete •block . • Mr. Pierce stated that he prefers less,,windows in_ ttp; uoper level _, something that is encased,. pn!eferred pre fast concrete.'e Mr. Soleau stated that the new addition probab?y will be . ' built sometime this summer. r Mr. Carr asked the purpose of presentation beyond courtesy. , Mr , Soleau stated it was helpful in the design . Mr. Carr stated that they will have to come before the , commission to waive the demolition delay ordinanch for the 1927 addition . Mr. Pierce asked if the commission should write a letter with comments. Mr. Soleau suggested a letter be sent to the Salem School ' . F Building Commission and the Assistant Principal, for Middle t School West . Weatherkin Windows Stan Morris. "-se oree.ented a wes-pine window with a storm and asked for suggestions as to what he could change about the window that -would give the commissions permission to install his windows in historical homes. s - r Mr. Carr stated that it was not your traditional. window: Mr. Hedstrom stated that the storms cover the sash fra,re. Mr. Morriss'eeystated that the'question is about the .storms on. the window and what exactly w6uld' the .c6mmission approve. Mr. Pierre stated that he would like to see as much corner sash as possible and that i0should be- 1/4, inch to 1 1/2 • inch and he preferred to conceal the vinyl balance-and maintain the race width of the sash . There Ore also concerns on the depth of the rabbit for the 'storm and`the thick:ne=_s of the sills. Mr. Morrisseystated that he would correct the window to suit the historical homes and come back: with another sample at a later date, • January 2, 1991 Page 5 There being no further business, Mr. Carr made a motion to • adjourn . Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion' carried. Respectfully submitted, Deborah A Guy 4 e January .16, 1991 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING A reular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday„3anuary 16, 1991 at One Salem Green , Salem, MA, In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Slam, Mr. Cook, Mr. Carr, Mr, Oedel , Mr. 'Hedstrom and Mr. Stanton`. The commission ,had a. moment of silence for the Persian Gulf Crisis. + 14 Broad Street Evelyn Blum and Stephen Thomas applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for an alternate gate top . This application , was a continuance from the meeting of .January 2, 1991 . Chairman Harris noted that applicants requested that the dragontop of the gate be denied and that they will submit ,, another drawing and reapply for another meeting , Mr. Carr motioned to deny. Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 116-113 Federal Street Condos. Goldenberg, Hammond, Conrad, O'Brien and . Bailey applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of a front entrance fence post and gate. Proposed «struct_rre adds a half or full post attached to house to give a more balanced look: to entranceway, and addsupport by a latch for what- is now a. drooping gate. Replacement post to, be moved one foot west which lines it up Ath existing bri.k AN boarder-. Same existing poet and gate style. "The was a continuation for .January 2, 1991 meeting. Two options were provided . Mr. Oedel motioned`to approve either option . Mr. . Carr' seconded the motion." Mr. Carr asked for a friendly amendment that there be a strong recommendation thatoption one with two full posts be selected. Mr. Oedel so amended his motion , Six members were in favor. Mr. Hedstrom abstained, 74' Federal Street q Donald Wallace applied fora Certificate of Non-Applicability for restaining the body and trim' of 174 Federal Street in existing colors. This application was a continuance from January 2, 1991 meeting . Mr. Wallace was sent_a letter, from the Historical Commission questioning the (pediment , being a different shade of color January 16, 1941 Page 2 • than `_he rest of the ho_{se, Mr. Wallace stated that he has pictures of the reclapboar;ding of the house done several year's ago andlit was dArt::er grey buf-it was probably. not .as^dark as it As now,but there was a t - contrast in color scheme used . Chairman Harr-'is stated that she'felt it appeared to be the * same color frim the survey form taken when the district was formed, r Mr. Wallace stated that the clapboarding was done in '1985,-and n 985 he tried. to accent the house softly, and that people have commented favorablyonit . Mr: Carr stated that.he thought the .application-should be an application of appropriateness for a change in color. Mr. Slam 'asked if it was a change, Mr. Wallace stated that he did not know, "but felt work -he has done has indicated that there has been accent color to the house before. Mr. Slam asked if the pediment was made darker recently. Mr. Wallace stated that it was always darker than the body, but that he was proposing a darker version . Mr. Wallace stated that the pediment is only primed' presently Mr. Carr- stated that since the applicant has applied. for a Certificate of Mon-Applicability, he has to show that it is an existing condition As ,& the creation of the district . • Mr. Carr felt it was always a uniform color until maybe 1985 when a change may have occ_ured without benefit of a certificate. Mr. Oedel motioned to deny the Certificate of Non- Applicability. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. Mr. Oedel asked Mr. Wallace if he could paint the infill 'of Oe pediment the same color of '-+he body of she .house. ' Mr. Wallace stated in the affirmative. Mr. Oedel withdrew his motion and motioned to approve the Certificate of don-Applicability for body and triangle of pediment to be Driftwood Gray,, .for the `inset'' and horizontal. �. .=.. tbandto be stained Slate Gray-with trim remainiang white • including windows, cornerboards, save; and soffits, Mr, Carr seconded the motion ; All were -in favor and so the mot i ori .carni ed . 14 Chestnut Street _ Thomas and Katherine Murray applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for change in color of roofing material for the garage extension and porch roof to be constructed . y Mr. Murray stated that he could not obtain a sample of the roofing material and asked if it would normally be expected that all the roof surfaces on the house be the;same color • given th.e fact that- they were added over the 'c orrse of sever-'al decades. y ]anuary 16, 1991 Fage 3 z Mr. Carr stated that the roof issue was in litigation the • applicants should speak: in support of their application and the commission will act on the application presented. Mr. Murray stated'that if all the roof surfaces should be the same, then they should put on the same rotor on the addition as the main portion of the house. Chairman Harris asked if they'were applying f6r brown. Mr. Murray stated that it was,his question if it were ' appropriate. Mr. Carr stated that the commission denied his, brown roofing . material and questioned the applicants arguement because they had gone ahead in contravention of the commissions' p cf' MrQA ' Oedel stated that the main house is brown and the commission Aces not thins:: it siould be and that it does not have .. anything to do with the back structure being brown or black: or whatever. ' Katherine Murray asked if they could apply for a Certificate of Non-Applicability to put se.agreen back: on the house. Chairman Harris felt it would have been too long 'a time. , Mrs. Murray stated that they had not touched that portion of the house. ' Chairman Harris stated that they could match the seagreen . Mr. Siam stated that they could replace it with seagreen , Mr. Oedel stated it was difficult to match it . Mr. Carr gave an example of commission policy for duplex homes, and stated that if the roof was an inappropriate•green • and only one owner wanted, to reroof , the commission has taken the position to work towards appropriateness and have the , owner do the work: in an appropriate material` even 'if it means that there will be different roof coloring until the second owner reroofs., , Katherine Murray stated that there is a green roof in her , neighborhood that has a brighter green- on one side than the ' other, Mr. Carr stated that those existing roof colors which may not have been originally approved are grandfathered and there_ is nothing the commission can do about them. Mr. Hedstrom asked what the applicants were proposing . "Katherine Murray asked the commission wh-a.t ic '}is appropriate, « Mr. Oedel stated that the commission only approves black: or charcoal gray: Mr. Murray stated that the. g_iidelines- state brown is acceptable. ` Mr. Carr felt that the guidelines state that the preference ` rill! 1. " ' i=_. original "matee ads }either wooden shingles or. siate or copper as the case may' be and in the absence or impracticability or original materials, the commission favors black: or charcoal because it tends not to draw attention to , themselves. Whereas other colors tend to do that , such a's light colors, and brown colors, Mr. Oedel motionednto continue. Mr. Carr seconded the M • s • th , , January 16; 1401 Page 4 • motion , All were in favorandso' the motion carried. 4,6,7,11 Or_ne Sia=e Alfred Putnam, trustee, applied for a Certificate of Non- , Applicability for replar,ment of windows, cellar windows, doors, and repainting of porch railings at 4,6,7,11 Orne Square. Stan Morrissey of Weatherking Windows was present at the meeting with a. sample window for Arne Square. ' Chairman Harris read the application : Mr. Morrissey stated that he would not be taking brick molding out and that when the window is installed from the inside the molding will .show. * ' Chairman Harris asked, if all the windows were 0eing replaced . Mr. Morrissey stated the cellar sass , not frames, and the seventeen, double h_rnas in each apartment will be replaced . The celAar windows o.,th-e_ other dupleilt.mill be `replacedalso.; icause it is a common way. He further stated that ,4,6,7,11 Orne Square have been sited for lead paint and the sashes needed to be " repainted. Chairman Harris asked about the woodwork: around the doors. � Mr. Morrissey stated that the woodwork.is to be stripped , Mr, Oedel asked him if the storms were being. replaced along . withthe inner doors. • Mr. Morrissey replied in the affirmative. Chairman Harris asked about sending out the doors to be stripped and installing back into plae. Mr. Morrissey stated that the doors are old and not vey energy efficient but they could be sent out . Mr.: ilorrissey stated that he intended to replace them with a birch door, Mr. Carr asked if' they were going to.replace the storm door or leave .it out , Mr. Morrissey stated that he would replace them identically:' Mr. Carr stated that the commission„has no jurisdiction over storm doors but he preferred the'4onyogl. `doors be .stripped and reinstalled. Mr. Morrissey stated that they will leave original doors and strip them. Mr. Hedstrom stated -that he recommendikeeping the original doors. Mr. Morrissey stated that he will do that . Mr. Oedel asked if the commission has jurisdiction over• lead paint . Chairman Harris stated in the negative and stated that the health department does. Mr. Slam asked if- the owner cared if the doors were' stripped or replaced . 4 Mr, Morrissey stated that it had been left up .to him. Mr. Slam statedthat he preferrred that the•originai doors be • kept z ' u January 16, 1991 Page 5 Mr. Carr asked if the lower sash was the same i'dln_0tion • Mr, Carr stated that it looked a little deep . Mr. Hedstrom felt it was in excess of l 318 inch. Mr. Morrissey stated that the window will be of one piece,. Chairman -Harris asked about storm windows, Mr. Morrissey stated that ,they would be installed later on applied on the outside. V . Mr. Hedstrom had no objection provided that the sill is solid demension and the reveal is kept the same. Mr. Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted. Mr. Carr seconded the motion and then asked if the reason for the windows was for both energy effirein_y.and lead paint . Mr. Morrissey replied in the affirmative and stated that to strip each sash would require every single, pane be taken out . Mn. Carr asked if the window would replicate exactly what is there. Mr. Morrissey replied in the affirmative, Mr. Carr asked if the depth between the ptane„of the framing ad 'the surface of the window would be indantical:. Mr. Morrissey replied in the affirmative and stated that the window will be installed right to the existing brick: molding. Mr. Carr suggested keeping the photographs and asked abort the storm doors. Mr. Morrissey stated that they are replacing with same as ; existing . Mr, oedel felt the commission would rather ha_'I strip 'the main • door and can go-ahead and replace the storm door! Mr. Slam stated that his motion is to accept the application as submitted with the amendment that the doors be stripped and repainted . Mr'. Carr seconded the amendment, . Mr. Morrissey asked about the paint stating they would like keep the dark green which is under the black: on the railings. . Chairman.Harris felt it was Essex Green, Mr. Carr asked if the commission could send an approved color chip . ' Mr, Morrissey was in agreement :`= Mr. Slam amended his motion for the paint. to be dark: green conforming to a chip that we will send . Mr. Carr seconded the motion . Mr. oedel stated that he was concerned with historical fabric being taken out and thrown away and that it was something the commission has fought all over the city:. Mr. Ode! added that he realized it was a lead paint issue. Mr. rook: asked about the age of the house. Mr. Carr Stated that it was rebuilt after the Salem fire. Mr, tledel suggested taking windows out and putting it on a Certificate of Hardship for the lead paint . Mr. Slam stated that he does not see where anything would be gained since another person could also ask: for hardship. Chairman Harris_ stated that the owners have been sited for lead paint. r i January 16, 1491 Page 6 Mr. Slam stated that he does not see how this changes any issues or policies.. Mr. Carr stated that usually someone inspects to see ifs the windows can be saved. Mr. Slam stated that in the past the commission Anyclurljd the applicant to keep the existing windows because it wa zn their best interest and less expense and the commission has given an alternative .in the past . Sairman Harris stated that the issue is often the applicant's windows beinfrhanged to a different window. Mr. Carr stated that inspection was a 'developing policy in order to favor. or-iginal fabric over replacement , Mr. Cool:: stated that he agrees with Mr. Slam on encouraging the use of original fabric but if unable to replicate as close is possible, Mr. Carr asked if Mr, Slam' would accept it as a friendly amendment . Mr. Siam replied in the negative. a Mr. Hedstrom agrees with Mr. 'Oedel for-consistancey in • recommending the preservation of the original windows. Mr. Oedel stated that many times wer:eequ re' the retention of the existing material , f Mr. Cook: stated that it was commenstrate with historical integrity, and that these are 1920 windows. 0 ' Mr- . Oedel stated he was concerned with precede n:£.: Mn. Cook felt the Commission did not have to Mr. Slam felt it would establishing- a hardship policy for .be bound by precedent. windows we may be much less favorable to accept . Mr. Stanton felt the distinction was valid and believes that * it puts another layer between. replacement and preservation of historical fabric and he further stated that in another 100 years 1920 sashes will be historical , Chairman Harris stated that the' issues`are duplication of the mood and demensions as well as the glass which :"tin old houses is irregular. Chairman Harris felt the glass. for this house was not an -issue and the wood was not irregular and could be. done as an exact replica of what is there and felt it would replacement of existing materials under Non- Applicability. .Mr, Hedstrom asked it the lead should then Fre stripped or - take seventy or eighty years of the sash and dispose7of it. Mr. Carr stated that the applicant has been sited and does not have a .practicle option and the commission can approve the window portion of the -application as a hardship without creating an adverse precedent for the future.`. . Mr. Morrissey stated that stripping the windows would • displace four families because they would have to move during the process and there is a sixty day deadline and would therefore be a hardship . ' Mr, Oedel felt if there was no head paint and an inspection proved the windows sound, that he would vote against replacement. He also felt the lead paint was an added hardship . + M1: r January 16,49% Page 7 Mr. Cook stated disagreed with the hardship issue'. • Mr. Slam stated that he would vote for either a Certificate of Hardship or Non-Applicability but felt hardship was a bad policy, Mr . Cook: stated the Federal or-State does not consider it a hardship. Messrs. Slam and Cook voted in favor Chairman-Ha rri sen dMessrs. CKY r-;AdelHedstro�tanton voted'in'opposition: TKOATdid not carry. Mr. Carr m f o-ea#r a Certificate of Non-Applicability on all aspects except for the windows on the basis .that it is a replication of what'' is there, for the photographs to stay with the commission and for a Certificate of Hardship for the windows. The doors to be stripped and' the color to be dark green ; the same as existing per chip to be provided by the commission and to waive the public hearing for the Certificate of Hardship . Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were `in favor and so the motion carried . Review of. Next Meeting Applications 10 Broad Street Ann Neubert presented an app licat.iem,for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace an existing green asphalt roof with a. new black: asphalt roof at 10 Broad Street . . Chairman Harris stated that the applicant hoped that the commission would waive the public hearing. Mr'. Carr stated that the applicant who has gone through the trouble of notifying the°commis=_.ion to get accerlerated treatment should solicit signatures in the future. Mr. Slam motioned to waive the public hearing, and approve the application as submitted . Mr. Carr seconded the motion . All -Were .in favor and so the - motion carried: Mr. Cook: abstained. is Hathorne Street G. Wayne and R. Elaine Belleau presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove fence and construct exterior- stairs at 15 Hathorne Street , Richard �._.�jt - — . Staff ord'�Pre�e_nted thezapplicant:`- It was noted that there is an egress doorway. The proposal is to remove the chain link: fence and to install a landing and railing and three steps. Mr. Carr asked if a variance is needed. Mr. Stafford stated that they obtained an easement from the abutter. . Mr. Slam stated that he *Tants notification to the neighbor of 15 Hathorne Street . * Mr. Hedstrom stated that he would approve on the fact that • h y p )anuaey 16, 1991 Page S they submitted the notification and asked if an exact drawing_ • has been sent. to the neighbor. Mr. Stafford_stated it was discussed with the neighbor but they had not seen an exact drawing . Mr. Slam asked why it could not wait until the nett meeting. Mr. Stafford states that the property is set •for sale on.„ February'9, .1991 0nd that a building permit can not be obtained until the historical commission approves the application which would only leave i Ill days. Chairman Harris asked about further detail on caps. . It was stated that it would be a two by four railing captor. they cold cap the posts or cut them at an angle. Chairman Harris stated that she would like to see some demensions showing depth to. it and a drawing with more detail . Mr. Carr 'stated that he does not want rush to Accept the application because the drawings are ^uncl ear. , Chairman Harris stated that she has questions on the drawing, ' , Mr. 'Carr stated that in viewing the drawing that it is not something 1t hat would have originally. existed. Mr. Oedel noted on the drawing what is needed , that being #1 capped detail on posts and railings, #20drawing presently under detailed, #3'easement , and #4 Balla=_ter detail , Mr. 'Carr noted that he did not want a close ballastrade because it' should be fairly invisible. • There being no further business Mr. Slam motioned to adjourn . Mr. Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried. Respectfully submitted , Az Deborah A. Guy i ' r e February 6, 1991 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on February 6, 1991 at 7:30 P.M. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. In attendance were` Chairman Harris, Mr. Oedel , Mr. Slam, Mr. Pierce, Mr. Hedstrom, and Ms. Guy. Mr. Carr and Mr. Cook entered later in the meeting. 14 Chestnut Street Thomas and 'Katherine Murray applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for roofing material . This was a continuation from the January 16, 1991 meeting. Chairman Harris stated that the applicants requested that the application be continued for the fact that they were unable to attend. i Ms. Guy stated that since there would, no be meeting on February 20th, there would not be enough time to continue the application. Mr. Oedel motioned to deny without prejudice and invited the applicants to reapply due to there being insufficient information.submitted with the application. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Mr. Carr entered at this time. lO Broad Street Ann Neubert applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for reroofing at 10 Broad Street. „ Ms. Guy stated that the' public hearing for this application was waived at the last meeting and the application had been acted upon at .that time. 15 Hawthorne Street G. Wayne and R. . Elaine Belleau applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of, a fence and the construction of stairs at 15 Hawthorne Street. A drawing was submitted along with a sample of the lattice work and railing. ' _ , • Mr. Oedel asked if the railing would have a simple beveled cap. Mr. Wayne replied in the affirmative and stated it would be a ` nantucket cap. Mr. Carr stated that the applicant may not want to put lattice on. in order to make it insubstantial and further stated that they may not want ,to, give the stairs volume, February 6, 1991 Page 2 1 Chairman Harris felt that they should try to keep the stairs • decent and preferred the lattice �-� Mr. Pierce asked about paint.f ' Chairman Harris stated that �` `` would be pressure treated and that you do not want to paint it right away. Mr. Carr stated that the new owner is the one who is assuming the responsibility for painting. '• ,. Mr. Slam motioned to approve the application as submitted with lattice as per sample to be painted trim color within twelve months of construction. 1 0 ' Mr. Carr seconded the motion. AlP were in favor and so the motion carried. 4.6.7.11 Orne Square A. Putnam Trustees applied for a Certificate of Hardship for window,replacement,. Ms. Guy stated that the public hearing was waived at the last meeting and the application was acted upon at that time. 9 Chestnut Street Hamilton Hall Incorporated applied for a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the construction of temporary side stairs ' at 9 Chestnut Street to use during their. lecture series each • year from February 1st to March 31st. Mr. 'Oedel motioned to approve the application with the condition that the temporary stairs be errected no earlier . than January 15th and taken down no later than Aprilj15th. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. 278 Lafayette Street Marie Plamondon applied for a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the repair of the front porch at '278 Lafayette Street . Mr. Oedel motioned`to approve with the amendment that the original fabric be used as much as possible on 'all components and that which cannot be salvaged be made to match as close as possible. , ' Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. It was noted that the applicant would like the commission to 'look into an issue regarding the carriage house at 274 Lafayette Street. It will be put on the next agenda. t r s February 6, 1991 Page 3 • 18 Chestnut Street Phyllis Jacqueline Fredericksen applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of two front roof tops and repainting at 18 Chestnut Street . A sample of rubber roofing material was submitted along with the contractor's proposal . Mr. Hedstrom requested more detail to the proposal than was submitted. Mr. Carr was concerned` with �the drip edge visibility and build up of insulation. c Mr. Oedel motioned-to approve providing that the roofing material be 'copper or tin as existing. There was no second. Mr. Pierce stated that the flashing is visible. Mr. Hedstrom felt that drawings were needed. Ms. Guy asked if the commission would be willing to approve a Certificate of Non-Applicability that amends the contractor's proposal . y Mr. Carr asked about the urgency of .the matter and stated that he has alot of questions about the project and motioned ' to approve the Certificate of Non-Applicability providing that what,-is visible from the street be replaced as existing'. There was no 'second.' Mr. Hedstrom stated that he did not want to approve the rubber material that has been submitted.` • Chairman Harris stated that the contractor has not given a ' proposal for duplicating what 'is there. Mr. Oedel made a motion to. approve a 'Certificate of Non- Applicability-provided that the material used is identical to' that- currently installed on the roof, ( ie: tin, straight copper'or terneplated copper) and that the drip edge and flashing that is visible from the•street is replaced as existing and that no'insulation or sheathing be added to the thickness so that.-there is no•mater1aI .bu11d up and that . . there be .no dimens'.ional changes. The proposal dated February 5, 1991 is not acceptable in its current form. Lolled asphalt may be used provided the drip Mr. Slam`seconded. the motion. All were in favor and so the edge and flashing still motion carried. *�- _ 'be _terne copper or tin. Salem Beverly Bridge A Ms. Guy stated that she and Mr. Pierce attended a consultation meeting at the Mass. DPW for discussion of Section 106 Review documentation on the bridge and bypass project, Ms. Guy stated that the Mass. DPW has requested that the commission provide comments on the latest design and direct them to the Mass. DPW with copies to FHWA and MHC.'. The letter should include ail comments even if the commission is repeating prior comments. 'The comments should be sent by March 1, 1991. . Ms. Guy stated that if the concerns of the interested parties have not been satisfied, the consultation " r February 6, 1991, 'Page 4 • meetings will continue until concerns are mitigated. If unable to mitigate, .it will move on to the advisory council . If no memorandum of agreement is reached, C 'anyy'parties who feel the 106 review process was not complied with can bring the issue to court. Mr. Pierce stated that the Mass. DPW is going through the MEN process at the same time and that the commission may or may not have another chance to comment. Mr. Cook entered into the meeting at this time. Mr. Carr stated that Mass Historic stated that if they find adverse effects that they will try to have them mitigated. Chairman Harris stated that she was concerned that the greenery was taken out of the drawings. P " Mr. Carr stated that the plans show all of the now removed buildings and not the park and assumed that the park/mitigation area is to be there and not the buildings. He further stated that most of the project is being built .with'Federal money and the Federal government is paying for the project and it appears that there, is going to be a provision for the park and that he was told that it was to be a, reasonable balance between parks and roadway. Mr. Carr questioned 'if there would be pavement area in front of the car lot . Mr. Pierce stated that the lighting fixtures should not be highway fixtures and that the commission must state that there be no jersey barriers. • Mr. Pierce suggested writing and asking them for a response with more details on the plans. �. Mr. Paul Willis of River Street stated that he felt that the lighting could definately have an adverse effect and is significant . Mr. Pierce suggested writing to inquire as to the color the lighting. Chairman Harris also suggested that the type of landscaping, - curbing and paving be explicit on the plans. Chairman Harris felt that where the road is removed must be landscaped with minimal entrance to businesses. Mr. Pierce suggested the sidewalk go through the middle of the buffer. Chairman Harris felt the trees should be set in and asked if` there would be walkway lighting. Mr. Carr stated that there would be walkway lighting as proposed in the scale plans. Chairman Harris felt there should be more' low level pedestrian lighting than highway lighting. Mr. Carr felt the lighting should not intrude. Mr. Pierce stated that the commission has a right to be informed as to the adverse effects of the historical district and not to be in doubtkabout'it. Mr. Oedel felt the letter should state that the commission does not agree with the no adverse effect finding and has , • concerns with the following areas. 4 Febcuary 6, 1991 Page 5 Mr.. Oedel stated that some.of the following does not show - upon the latest plans. 1 . cut `thru's; 2. lanscape Y. criteria, lighting, walkway position,.and composition; 3. median strip; 4. park unspecified. Mr. Carr stated that the park is to remain a park and that changes in the*plan to. create a provision for the park were agreed upon.at neighborhood meetings with {Mayor Harrington but that the plans show no specifics. Mr. Slam suggested Mr. Carr and Mr. Pierce to sit down and make the changes on the plans and draft' a letter. Mr. Carr felt the commission should not limit themselves and make a bad situation worse, by marking. up •the plans and possibly omitting something. Mr. Carr felt the commission should just request additional information and provide examples of areas.missing information. Mr. Jerry Jennings of River Street felt that there were M issing cur`b', cuts on the plans and noted where there •were garages. Mr. Carr felt there should be. a continuous green buffer as • wide.as possible. + Mr. Oedel questioned if the numbers of curb cuts was inappropriate: Chairman' Harris questioned if it would be dangerous backing out and suggested Carpenter Street be made a dead end. Mr. Oedel stated that there were ten items that there was a, concern of his and wanted them mentioned in the proposed letter on the .106 review which should state that the commission wants more infrmation and they will not be satisfied with what is already on the drawing. The ten , concerns are: 1 . Medianstrip - composition and construction 2. Lighting underfined - -size, type, lumins„ 3. Curbing 4. Park unspecified define and access 5. Curb�errgts�'"--'� inaccurately*portrayed, in inappropriate charactto road GGurb cuts�defeat character to road: 6. Paved areas within 7. Limited access 8. Landscape criteria 4 9. Walkway - position and composition 10.Signals Mr. Jennings stated that he feels noise is the biggest problem and felt with so many curb cuts, only distance can . mitigate and that there is going to be problem with a fifteen • foot median strip. Mr. Jennings suggested the the median be smaller and+eliminate one track in order to move the road away from the houses more. Mr. Carr stated that there is a need for good size median. , , 'Mr. Wi1114'_�questioned if jersey barriers would deflect noise 4 back into, the district. Mr. Pierce stated that the Pierce ,Nichols House is a` February 6, 1991 Page fI • natrenal land mark and the Federal government has to act on the fact that it is a land mark. Mr. Pierce stated that they must seek written response from the advisory council and federal level . Mr. Pierce felt the commission should refute the statement that the building is beyond the limit of the project. He further stated that the project should have land scaping on Washington/Bridge intersection and questions typical improvements, such as lighting, and new curb cuts. Mr. Pierce stated that landscaping and lighting, e�', should be,consistent all through the project. Mr. Oedel stated that there is not enough information and that theentire project'must be reviewed and to add the Pierce Nichols house to the list. Mr. Pierce questioned if the signal tower was eligible for ' the national register. Mr. Oedel questioned the effects on Blubber Hollow: Mr. Willis'questioned access to the park. Chairman Harris asked if the commission should mention the bridge. Mr. Oedel Ctated,that the commission could say that it has an impact on Fish Flake Hill . M. Pierce suggested concurring with.MHC's letter regarding • the need for further information. Mr. Oedel motioned to draft a letter to concur/support all five items,.4 MHC's position ,�as written and to list the • (,ll items that they have discussed as requiring further information. Mr. Oedel provided Ms. Guy with .his hand written list of CAI Items. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. Mr. Carr felt the commission should bot concur with MHC's letter because he felt it would be taking a position on the bridge. Chirman Harris was in agreement. Four members were in favor and three were against. Mr. Slam - Against Mr: Pierce - In Favor Mr. Carr - Against s Mr. Hedstrom - 'In Favor Mr. Cook - In Favor , Chairman Harris - Against Mr. Oedel - In favor. The motion was so carried. Mr. Pierce and Mr. Carr and Chairman Harris will draft the letter for distribution and approval of the ,remaining members in order to mail by March ° 1 , 1991 . News Vending'Machine Chairman Harris stated that there was no reply to the ,letter the commission sent on November 15, 1990.` Chairman Harris stated that they could send a second,,letter k re February 6, 1991. Page 7 a ✓4or s -letter to the City Solicitor. ' ' ,• Mr. Slam stated that the City Solicitor was the next step but feels that the city will refuse to deal with the matter. Mr. *Oedel stated that this is not a first amendment issue. Mr. Carr stated that the news had to present an application to the commission to keep the- machine in its present location and that all the commission has to do is appeal to the court that they have to go through the same process as .everyone else does. Mr: Carr motioned to send a letter to the City Solicitor stating that the commission has not entertained an application from the news and that he write a letter stating that if they do not comply then legal, action,will be taken. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carred. Mr. Pierce suggested a second letter also be sent to the news out of courtesy or that the chairman telephone and find out who got the letter. ' Betsy Burns requested a, copy of the letter to the City Solicitor and asked when more will be known. Chairman Harris stated that they -could ask the City Solicitor to respond as to the status by the next meeting. The issue is to be placed on the agenda to be discussed at the March 6, 1991 Meeting. • Approval of Minutes- Minutes of September 19, 1990. Mr. Carr motioned to approve. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Minutes of October 3, 1990. Mr: Carr motioned to approve. Mr. Cook seconded the motion,' All were in favor and so the motion carried. Minutes .of October 17, 1990'. Mr. Carr motioned to approve.', Mr Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Minutes of December 12, 1990. Mr. Carr motioned to approve. Mr. Cook seconded. All were in favor and so the. motion., carried. r . Violations 41 Flint Street . A letter fromtheowners was sent to the commission stating the skylight was discussed .at a meeting, back• in 1984 and. it was approved. The commission suggested that'Ms. Guy check the minutes and drawings that were submitted at that time and put the matter on the next agenda. ' Curtis Park. A letter was sent from MHC to the Salem Z February E, 1991 Pape 8 Planning Department stating that the work being done did not • effect significant historic or archaeological resources. s r 14 Chestnut Street. Ms. Guy will obtain resumes for expert witnesses. Mr. Cede] noted that the tarrot sign that was approved for 135 Derby Street was up but that now there is a painted panel below the front door. Ms. Guy will send a letter. '- Mr. Hedstrom noted that there is a contractors sign attached to the fence of the house next door to the Pierce Nichols house across from Federal Court. Ms. Guy will check. Mr. Pierce was concerned that work done through the City's Home Improvement Program outside historic districts was sometimes detrimental to historic preservation. Chairman Harris will speak to Mr. Luster. Mr. Pierce asked Ms. Guy "to check if the three story federal building-next to 0 Calcutta was in an SRA district. Ms. Guy stated that there will be meeting on 2/20/91 since (n'Oapplications were received. There being no further business Mr. Slam motioned to adjourn. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. ' All •were in favor and so the motion carried. • Respectfully Submitted, Deborah A. Guy ,Yr � March 6 , 1991 • SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on March 6 , 1991 at 7:30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Cook , Mr . Pierce , Mr . Slam , Mr . Oedel , Mr . Carr and Ms . Guy . Mr . Hedstrom entered later in the meeting . Chairman Harris , the presiding officer , stated that the commission will go into executive session and will reconvene after the V executive session . As per Chapter 39 , Section 23A of the Massachusetts General Laws , the minutes of the executive session may remain secret as long as publication may defeat the lawful purposes of the executive session . After such time , the minutes will be attached and become part of these minutes of March 6, 1991 . Executive Session 174 Federal Street Attorney Kevin Daly stated that Mr . Donald Wallace of 174 Federal Street has changed his attorney to Carol Perry , and Attorney Perry has made a proposal of: ( 1 ) removal of the bathroom skylight and ( 2 ) installation of blinds on the remaining skylights . Mr . Carr suggested hat the commission take a look at the property and discuss it at the next meeting in two weeks and a decision will then be made . Attorney Daly suggested that the commission have photographs of the house taken with a 35mm camera . The commission reconvened the public meeting . Newspaper Vending Machine Attorney Kevin Daly stated that he feels the vending machine is a temporary structure and the commission does not have jurisdiction over temporary structures but can set conditions as to the lighting and the duration of use of the structure and asked if the commission should set specific guidelines as far as temporary structures are concerned or look at each on a case by case basis . Mr . Carr stated that the statute state nothing in the historic district can be done without an application and that the Salem News has chosen to avoid the process . He also stated that he felt that even if the machine is determined temporary they should apply and stated that no one should be above the law . Mr . Carr stated that everyone should go through the process . -Attorney Daly stated that the vending machine is in front of a variety store and felt it is legal as a temporary structure . Mr . Carr stated that Kevin Daly is referring if the Salem News had �pplied for non-applicability but that non-applicability. should not be -2- ieft up to• the owner and that they should apply . hairman Harris stated that her conversations with Mr . Daly had indicated a certificate was not needed . Mr . Carr was in disagreement . Mr . Daly stated that he was not sure if the commission could require the Salem News to get a certificate but that it could set conditions . Mr . Carr felt that if the News. did not apply a court would have them remove the machine on procedural reasons . Mr . Slam asked Attorney Daly if he has ever been in contact with the Salem News about first amendment issues . Attorney Daly replied in the negative and stated that he wanted to speak with the commission informally before drafting a letter . Mr . Oedel stated that the machine is in the center of the district . Chairman Harris asked if there were ways that the commission could require the news to come into the commission with an application for a certificate and asked Attorney Daly and Mr . Carr to discuss the issue between themselves further . Attorney Daly asked if other news machines . had been applied for and denied in the past . Ms. Guy stated that there was a USA Today vending machine removed from in front of the Witch Museum in the past . Chairman Harris stated that there had not been an application just letters sent . Mr . Carr stated that there should not be a change without going through the process . Shairman Harris stated that she would like to see a letter from Attorney Daly to the news about obtaining an application and that Mr . Daly should research it further , and discuss it with Mr . Carr . Chairman Harris stated that it will be put on the next agenda . Mr . Slam suggested that Attorney Daly talk to someone at the Salem'News. 14 Broad Street Stephen Thomas and Evy Blum applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a driveway privacy fence with color to be gray stain to match the house color at 14 Broad Street . Drawings were submitted . Chairman Harris read a letter from Karen and Ware Cady of 18 Cambridge Street an abutter of 14 Broad Street in support of the application . Mr . Slam asked if the fence would be a flat board fence . Mr . Thomas replied in the affirmative . Mr . Slam asked if the boards would abut each other . Mr . Thomas stated that there would be 1/2 - 3/4" spacing . Mr . Slam asked if it would be attached to the abutters fence . Mr . Thomas stated that it will come up next to it . Mr . Carr did not feel it was historically appropriate to divide a driveway with a fence . Mr . Cook stated that the commission approved it at Byron Gatchell 's . Mr . Slam stated that fences are historically placed where they are Geeded . He also stated that he thinks it is perfectly acceptable but elt that the lattice was not historically inappropriate . -3- r . Oedel agreed that the lattice was not appropriate . Mr . Cook motioned to accept the fence as submitted with the deletion of the lattice top . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . Mr . Thomas stated that he would like the lattice in order to grow vines and roses . Mr . Slam asked .how you can put climbing things on something that swings . Chairman Harris pointed out that the building code does not allow more than a six foot fence . Chairman Harris :noted that the motion is for a five foot te.n inch fence with no lattice . Chairman Harris stated that she does not see that it is inappropriate as long as it is not over six feet and asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak on the application . There was no one in the audience to voice concerns on the application. Mr . Thomas withdrew the lattice and stated that he will want the fence six feet above his grade in order to match the height of the neighbors fence . Mr . Carr asked if it would just be flat board and no posts . Mr . Thomas replied in the affirmative . Mr . Pierce asked the reason for the location ' Mr . Thomas replied that it was still in front of the door but far enough back to allow a car to park in the driveway . Mr . Slam felt that the benefit was that it probably would keep the gate closed . qhairman Harris and Messrs Oedel , Slam and Cook voted in favor . Messrs arr and Pierce voted in opposition . The motion was so carried . 51 Summer/28 High Street Walter Kallenback , Jr . applied for a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the replacement of a black asphalt roof with black asphalt at 51 Summer/28 High Street . Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 19 Fowler Street Charles and Susan Bean applied for Certificate of Appropriateness for vestibule removal , window replacement ,. shingle removal , clapboard installation , bulkhead reconstruction , door replacement and paint colors at 19 Fowler Street . Susan Bean stated that the project would be done within the next five years . She also stated that the clapboards would be painted rural red and the bulkhead and doors would be painted black . The windows that are one over one or two over two will be replaced with six over six , sash only , single glaze , intregal-,"muntins and mullions , Brosco . A jalousie -4- indow on the third floor dormer facing south will be replaced with a ouble hung window . The back door on the north side will be replaced with a Brosco M100 door . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Oedel asked if the six over six windows would be replaced . Susan Bean stated that they are going to make every effort to keep them and only replace as need be . Mr . Pierce asked if just the sash and .not the casings and frames will be replaced . Susan Bean replied in the affirmative . Chairman Harris asked if the door could be fixed . Susan Bean replied in the negative as the door is cracked . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 14 Chestnut Street Thomas and Katherine Murray applied for a certificate of Appropriateness for a change in roof color on the rear garage extension and new roof over the rear porch at 14 Chestnut Street . Samples were submitted of brown shingles in varying shades and two textures . Thomas Murray stated that the guidelines state that black or charcoal grey or brown shingles are appropriate . Ms . Guy stated that the guidelines state that dark brown shingles are appropriate in limited cases . Mr . Murray proposed a dark brown shingle from the Timberline shingles . Chairman Harris asked Mr . Pierce if he was familiar with Timberline hingles . r . Pierce replied in the negative . Mr . Carr asked if the motivation of the application was to select a color that would go with the light brown on the roof . Mr . Murray replied that the color would blend well without them having to put black on the remaining roofs . Mr . Carr stated that if their driving force is to try to integrate the proposed with the light brown on the rest of the house , it would not be known until the litigation is completed . Mr . Carr asked if the Murrays have given thought as to how the proposed shingle color will go with the black if the commission is upheld . Mr . Slam asked if the Murrays could wait until the litigation is completed . Mr . Murray stated that they need to go into the roof to construct the dormer . Mr . Hedstrom entered the meeting . Mr . Murray stated that black is not appropriate for the house . Katherine Murray stated that the commission wants black and the Murrays do not . Ms . Guy read from the guidelines for the roof shingles . Chairman Harris was concerned that the proposed shingle has a pattern to it and the rest of the house does not . Mr . Pierce stated that he agrees with Chairman Harris and stated that they should not introduce another texture . Mr . Carr stated that two color tones would defeat the purpose of trying �ot to draw the eye to the , roof . II , -5- �r . Carr motioned to accept the application as submitted in the hopes that it fails . There was no second . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the GAF , the color to be the color of the sample submitted, or the Georgia Pacific Burnt Bark Brown standard , three tab shingle for the roof on the garage section and rear porch I roof previously approved for black . There was no second . Mr . Carr moved to deny and then withdrew his motion . Mr . Slam seconded Mr . Oedel 's motion . Mr . Oedel amended his motion to drop the GAF shingle . Mr . Slam seconded the amendment . Ms . Joan Bacall of 12 Chestnut Street stated that she hopes the Murrays would be allowed to keep what is on their house and that the roof_ coexists happily with what is on the other houses in the neighborhood . Chairman Harris , Mr . Slam and Mr . Oedel voted in favor . Mr . Cook , Mr . Carr , Mr . Hedstrom and Mr . Pierce voted in opposition . The motion did not carry and the application was denied . Mr . Hedstrom felt that if the light brown was not on the building , the proposed dark brown would have been rejected unanimously . 2 Beckford Street Brian MacQuarrie applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for a fence replacement at 2 Beckford Street . Katherine MacQuarrie , representing the condo , stated that they would epair/replace the same as existing and will be doing the entire fence . r . Carr motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 126 Federal Street y Roger Hedstrom applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of drip edge and flashing at 126 Federal Street . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Hedstrom abstained . 407 Essex Street Miroslaw Kantorosinski requested .to amend his previously approved certificate for front doors at 407 Essex Street . Me . Guy stated that the previously approved doors are not produced in clear glass and Mr . Kantorosinski would like an amendment for the same type of door but in oak and made by Grant #2501 RM-LGB . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the amendment and wants door color to be specified in a further application . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . i -6- 74 Lafayette Street - Discussion._ The commission received a letter from a neighbor stating that if the commission pleases to take steps on the issue of the carriage house which is in extreme disrepair . Mr . Carr stated that a letter to the owner should be sent asking them to please fix up the structure . 41 Flint Street - Discusiion Ms. Guy stated that she reviewed the minutes in 1984 but could not find any mention of skylights . Mr . Carr stated that the burden of proof concerning the skylights is on the owner . Mr . Oedel motioned to send another letter stating that documentation of the meetings of 1984 does not show any proof of the skylight being in the application and that the applicants apply for a skylight within thirty days or remove it and that if the applicant has any evidence that contradicts the records of the commission then please submit them . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Other Business Ms. Guy stated that Barromee Dube sent a letter to Loretta Weiting hich was forwarded to the commission stating that snow is being plowed la into the foundation- of 18 Crombie Street and that he was concerned that the house was not being protected . CMr . Pierce moved that Ms . Guy to send Mr . Dube a letter of ' thank you for the information and that his letter will be forwarded to the SRA . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Ms . Guy stated that the 180 day demolition waiver runs out May 13 , 1991 and that the commission should hope for an SRA decision to be reached before the commissions 's 180 days runs out . Mr . Carr stated that he wants the issue of 18 Crombie Street to be put on the next agenda so that the commission can it think about the issue . Middles School West Ms . Guy stated that the commission needs to write a letter of concerns and comments regarding the Middle School West . Mr . Carr motioned for Mr . Pierce to draft a letter . Preservation Awards Ms. Guy stated that Mass Historic would like to know if the commission would consider the Bertram Home for a preservation award for next year . The commission generally agreed that it was worthy of an award . • -7- 0 Chestnut Street Ms. Guy stated that the fence at 10 Chestnut Street has not been done as of yet . Mr . Oedel moved that Chairman Harris call the owner . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 100 Federal Street Ms . Guy stated that a letter was sent October 23 , 1990 stating that they had thirty days to complete a fence or railing and that nothing has been done and no reply was given . Ms . Guy will send a letter to Kevin Daly . 15 Beckford Street Ms . Guy stated that the wall is beingworked on . 135 Derby Street Ms . Guy stated that the sign under the front door has been removed . 7 Lynn Street Ms . Guy stated that the fence is now gone . Ms . Guy is to send the owner a letter for taking the fence down and Mr . Carr will call the owner . Other Business -Other Guy stated that she provided the Board of Appeals , building survey forms for 86 Summer Street and 13-15 Central Street that were on their agenda for February 27 , 1991 . Ms . Guy noted that the contractor 's sign accross from Federal Court has been removed . Ms . Guy noted that the building next to Oh Calcutta is not in the SRA district . 106 Review Mr . Pierce circulated a third draft of a letter regarding the commission 's comments on the bridge/bypass project . Mr . Pierce stated that he received comments on his first draft regarding tone . Chairman Harris requested that the minutes about the motion from the previous meeting on who would write the letter be read . The minutes were shown . Mr . Carr stated that his recollection was that the only disagreement amongst the commission was to concur with Mass Historic 's letter . Mr . Carr provided his own draft of commission comments . Mr . Carr stated that he thinks his letter for the 106 review best represents the concerns of the last meeting and that Mr . Pierce 's letter has a lot of things that were not discussed at the last meeting and is not strong enough on that which was discussed . Y . Slam moved to accept Mr . Carr 's letter as being in the spirit of he last meeting . -s- r . Carr seconded the motion . r . Pierce stated that his recollection was that he would draft the letter and review it with the commission . Mr . Pierce felt that since he was representing the majority of the group voting in favor that it was only appropriate for him to draft the letter . Mr . Slam stated that the only division at the last meeting was with , regard to MHC 's letter . Gary Stirgwolt stated that he had concerns about the historical district and asked if the, bridge/bypass' or tower were issues . Mr . Slam stated that they were a small part of the discussion . Mr . Pierce stated that there was small discussion on the tower but not on the bridge . Mr . Pierce stated that he attended the last two DPW meetings and has been closest to the project and stated that the commission is limited on what they can comment on and should focus on the effect of historic districts . Mr . Oedel asked about the 3/1 deadline . Ms. Guy stated that it has been extended until 3/7 . Mr . Oedel suggested taking Mr . Pierce 's letter and add the last two or three sentences of Mr . Carr 's letter to it . Chairman Harris stated that she has great regard for Mr . Pierce 's effort but felt Mr . Carr 's letter has the thrust and focus . Mr . Carr felt his letter hit the issues but praised Mr . Pierce for his letter . Mr . Carr motioned to move the question . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . Chairman Harris and Messrs Carr and Slam oted in favor . r . Cook , Mr . Hedstrom , Mr . Pierce and Mr . Oedel voted in opposition . The motion did not carry . Mr . Oedel stated that Mr . Carr 's letter did not mention an opinion on the adverse effect . Mr . Carr motioned to move the question . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . Chairman Harris , Mr . Slam , Mr . Cook and Mr . Carr voted in favor . Mr . Hedstrom , Mr . Pierce and Mr . Oedel voted in opposition . The motion so carried . The motion to send Mr . Carr 's letter was voted upon . Chairman Harris and Messrs Carr , Slam and Cook voted in favor , Messrs Hedstrom , Pierce and Oedel voted in opposition . The motion was so carried . Mr . Pierce motioned to allow his letter to be sent as the minority opinion of the commission and with an introductory paragraph that the two letters were not sent unanimously . There was no second . There being no further business Mr . Carr motioned to adjourn . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . Chairman Harris and Messrs Carr , Oedel , Slam Cook and Hedstrom voted in favor . Mr . Pierce voted in opposition . The motion was so carried . Respectfully submitted Deborah A . Guy 1 March 20 , 1991 • SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MEETING A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on - March 20 . 1991 at 7:30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Slam , Mr . Carr , Mr . Oedel ; Mr . Hedstrom and Ms . Guy . Discussion with the House of Seven Gables Lorinda Goodwin and David Goss presented before the commission. a proposal to do archeological digging on the grounds of the House of Seven Gables . Ms . Goodwin stated that she will be doing excavation on the John Turner site for her thesis for graduate school and is touching bases as a courtesy with the people who have an interest in the historical value of the property . Ms . Goodwin submitted copies of a synopsis of the project to the commission and stated that she has volunteers from Gordon College who are willing to assist in the dig . Ms . Goodwin stated that she has talked to Peter Retchko and John Grimes of the Peabody Museum concerning the project . Mr . Slam asked how much damage would be done to the Gables grounds . Ms . Goodwin stated that she hoped not too much damagewillbe done to he landscaping and indicated on the diagram where holes will be dug . hairman Harris asked that if something is found would a bigger dig be done . Ms . Goodwin replied in the affirmative and stated that this portion of the project is considered preliminary survey work o?' "phase II . " Mr . Carr asked Mr . Goss what was there before . Mr . Goss stated that the area has not had any structure on it and stated that preliminary work would possibly start on the third week in April and on the 22 or 23 of May.-the students from Gordon College would be going onto the site . Ms . Goodwin will be giving a talk at the Gables on May 15 , 1991 . The commission was excited over this project and wished Ms . Goodwin luck on her quest for information on the Turner family and Ms . Goodwin promised to keep the commission informed as to any finding on the property . Mr . Goss stated that the Gable 's is planning on building an educational building and would like to bring in the renderings at one of the commission 's next meetings . 1 Chestnut Street Charles Mekelatos applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for e the repair of the second floor porch floor with rubber roofing at 1 Chestnut Street . Steven Foster , of JAK Construction , the contractor for the applicant , •as present and stated that the roof maintains a widows walk and it is -2- .. �eaking inside the house . Mr . Carr asked if the portion to be repaired will be replace with same . Mr . Foster stated that the rubber will over lap about one inch over. the edges and be black in color . Chairman Harris asked aboutigluing�it on so there is no overlap . Mr . Foster stated that process tends to leak in time . Mr . Carr stated that the rubber material proposed is a synthetic and he would not want to see it over lapping and would prefer to see the copper edge remain . Chairman Harris stated that the copper can be seen from a public way . Mr . Hedstrom stated that he was concerned about the detail that was over the edge and asked about the size of the roof . Mr . Foster replied that the roof was six by twelve . Mr . Foster asked if he is able to keep copper edging, can he use the rubber on the roof . Chairman Harris replied in the affirmative providing that the rubber cannot be seen from the public way . Mr . Carr motioned for the Certificate of Non-Applicability with the finding that the copper edge is an important element visible from the street and to approve black rubber roofing providing that the rubber will not be seen from any public way and the copper flashing be reatined . The motion also include s.. the option for replacement of the f copper roof with a new copper roof . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 26 Federal Street Application was withdrawn. 131 Derby Street 131 Realty Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the addition of a show room sign that will be added seasonally to the bottom of the present sign . Mr . Hedstrom , the applicant , stated that the sign addition will be five inches by thirty inches . Drawings were submitted . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Hedstrom abstained from voting . Attorney Daly sent a letter stating that he could not attend this meeting but would be at the next meeting . 174 Federal Street Discussion of Skylight Chairman Harris stated- that she will talk to Attorney Daly and inform him that the commission will consider one skylight on the Western side in an appropriate location , that the four existing should be removed and that the owner should submit an application . 68 Crombie Street - Discussion -3- •Ms. Guy stated that the commission 's 180 days is to consider options in case the SRA approves demolition . Mr . Slam stated that when the SRA tells Holyoke that the building can be taken down it will be torn down the very next day if our 180 days is over . Chairman Harris stated that the Mayor feels that it would be better if the commission stays low key on the issue for' now since it could give Holyoke ammunition . Mr . Carr stated that he would contact Robert Campbell of the Boston Globe to attack the issue at the Holyoke level . Ms . Guy stated that if the SRA meeting is after the commission looses the 180 days and the SRA vote is to approve demolition , someone should request the condition that no demoltion occurs for 30 days in order for the building to be possible moved to another site . Ms . Guy felt that it would be beneficial for the SRA meeting to occur before the commission 's 180 days run out . Preservation Awards - Discussion The following were discussed for nomination for the Preservation Awards . 2 Winter Street 117 North Street 2 Dearborn Street douse on Bridge Street , almost opposite Pleasant , door facing towards owntown . 141 North Street 143-143 1/2 North Street 166 North Street Bertram Home 452 Lafayette Street 6 South Pine Street Deborah and Jeramiah Jennings house on 18 River Street Yellow house on Andrews Street ( Jim Bailey ? ) Stirgwolt's house at 17 Andrews Street Bayview and Columbus Streets - house with a tower Fifield 's house - portico on Flint Street ( 43 Chestnut Street ) Casey's house on 17 Flint Street - Pergola Mike Johnson 's house - 74 Washington-Square East 72 Washington Square East - Sachetti - fence . Expert Witnesses —Discussion The following expert witness were chosen for '14 Chestnut Street case . 1 . Allan Hill - as primary with , - Candice Jenkins - as secorid' choice ;2 . Dean Lahikainen - as a secondary expert witness since the Essex Institute has already made a public opinion of their position . •hairman Harris stated that Mr . Murray called her at her home and -4- •wanted her to call a special meeting to reconsider the roof color and stated that if the commission would not they are going ahead with the roof color on the remaining portions of the house with that of which is on the rest of the house roof , meaning brown . Mr . Carr stated that he will draft a reply letter to the Murrays phone call . violations/Work Status 10 Chestnut Street Chairman Harris is to call the owner . 164 Federal Street ; z Ballaster not painted - Ms . Guy to ;'send letter . 40 Derby Street The commission is sending a reply letter to the owner for a request for this spring for the deck . 265-267 Lafayette Street Mr . Carr asked the members to take a look at the front first floor windows . Lafayette Street Pavement hairman Harris asked the commission to look at the pavement on afayette Street and that there is a proposal from the phone company who would like to locate the phone lines underground and the sidewalks would be torn up and made narrower , in concrete and be edged in brick with an increase in the planting strip . Chairman Harris stated that the city with check if Mass Electric will put their lines underground as well in hope for eventual period lighting . Chairman Harris stated that there was a possibility that the historic commission could select specific buildings for more brick and that the homeowners could be allowed to add brick sidewalks in front of their houses if New England Telephone prepares the area . Chairman Harris requested that the phone company save the brick and use it to fill in missing spots in historic districts . 19 Fowler Street Susan and Charlie Bean wrote a letter to the commission regarding the dumpster at the Bowditch School Condos . Chairman Harris stated that it seems the dumpster was approved with a fence to be constructed all around the area . _ Mr . Oedel wants a letter from the-Comm ission;_reque_sting hee�fix ttie_ fence, sent-to:the condominium association with a copy of .the,•letter_-,fro mth y Beans enclosed and that""both be copied .to the Health;Department��The pl_ans . sHould be criecked, to, be sure the fence is in violation before any letter is sent . Other Business he commission approved a draft letter of support written by Ms . Guy or Ann Farnam 's nomination for a Mass . Preservation Award . -5- There being no further business Mr . Oedel motioned to adjourn . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so. the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , Deborah A . `Guy • April 3, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES APRIL 3, 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on April 3, 1991 . In attendance were Chairman Harris and Messrs . Cook, Slam, Pierce, Carr and Ms . Guy. Chairman Harris called the meeting to order. Newspaper Vending Machines Kevin Daly stated that he spoke with Attorney Robert Moore, one of the assistants at the Attorney General ' s office. Atty. Moore indicated that he would research the issue of regulating newspaper vending machines and get back to him. Ms . Joan Griffin asked if the response would be in writing. Atty. Daly stated that he might have to wait for a written opinion unless the Groton opinion is changed significantly. Ms . Griffin asked what would then be done. Atty. Daly stated that the Salem News • would then be notified that they have to appear before the Commission. Executive Sesssion 174 Federal Street Chairman Harris, the presiding officer, stated that the Commission will go into executive session and will reconvene after the executive session. As per Chapter 39 , Section 23A of the Massachusetts General Laws, the minutes of the executive session may remain secret as long as publication may defeat the . lawful purposes of the executive session. After such time, the minutes will become part of these minutes of April 3, 1991 . Mr. Carr stated that he could agree to accept either the one skylight on the eastern slope or the rear one on the western slope. The roof. would have to be retiled to match the existing. The members of the Commission were in agreement. Chairman Harris reconvened the public hearing. Armory Discussion William Luster, City Planner, was present to show a perspective and basic site plan that has been developed for the Armory. Mr. Luster stated that the back portion will be turned over to the Salem Redevelopment Authority by DCPO. _ The front portion is tentatively • April 3, 1991, Page 2 slated for development by the Museums Cooperative. Mr. Luster provided brief conceptual ideas and summarized concerns that have been raised. Mr. Carr asked if it would be necessary to remove the grove of sycamore trees . Mr. Luster stated that they may be removed and that he didn't know if they could be replanted. Mr. Pierce stated that he was fearful if it would be an arcade style in front of the retail glass area. Mr. Pierce felt the look at L.H. Rogers was better. Mr. Carr felt that if the main entrance were on the front facade it would have to be ramped for handicapped accessibility. Mr. Carr felt the ramping should be where there is new construction. Chairman Harris stated that by having the main entrance on the side, it may not function as a main entry, but it would preserve the building better. Mr. Slam stated that he was not sure if he would want to see the • design go to absurd lengths to marry the facade to something that has no bearing on it. Mr. Carr felt the building was a landmark. Mr. Cook was in disagreement with Mr. Slam and felt the marriage of the two could be accomplished comfortably. Mr. Pierce felt it was architecturally possible to marry the two successfully but did not want a "facadectomy" . Mr. Pierce agreed with Chairman Harris that there should not be a false facade. Mr. Carr felt the new construction should be more contemporary and not replicate. Mr. Pierce felt the new construction should not be modern. Chairman Harris stated that a new mini-armory should not be created but doesn't want it to be too modern. Mr. Luster asked if the Commission members could see any armory development that would be successful . Chairman Harris felt the new ,entry could be made more bold to show that it is the main entry. Mr. Pierce felt the entry should be pulled closer to get more out of the shadow of the garage. Mr. Pierce felt it was logical to put the visitor center in the drill shed to get it open by 1992 . .Mr. • Pierce felt that deferring approvals on the front portion should be considered in order to allow the visitor' s center to proceed. V'O • April 3, 1991, Page 3 Mr. Luster stated that he will provide updates at future meetings . Mr. Pierce asked if the City will look into stabilizing the facade in the interum phase. Mr. Luster applied in the affirmative but added that the question is who will do it. 15 Hathorne Street Mr. Slam removed himself from discussion of this application due to a conflict of interest. Chairman Harris stated that the four remaining votes would be needed to approve any application. Mr. Cook stated that he has had prior business dealings with the applicant in the past, but that such business has been concluded. Mr. Shawn Shea presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of garage doors with French doors at 15 Hathorne Street. Pictures, drawings and catalog cuts were shown. Ms . Guy stated that it no longer reads as a garage. Mr. Carr stated that he did not feel it was originally a garage and added • that it cannot be accessed. Mr. Shea stated that the doors would be painted white and that the catalog does not show hardware or exact trim. The door will be six feet wide with side lights . Mr. Carr felt it would be easier to approve as Non-applicability due to minimal visibility. Chairman Harris stated that it would be more natural to raise the doors and floors . Mr. Carr stated he would have trouble approving on appropriateness because it doesn't line up. Mr. Carr felt it was asymetrical and not architecturally historical . Mr. Carr felt, however, that it was not on the front of the house and is minimally visible. Mr. Carr made a motion to approve a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the replacement of garage doors with French doors as proposed. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. Mr. Carr did not feel that Mr. Cook could vote. Mr. Carr stated that the Conflict of Interest statute is for appearance of conflicts and was concerend that someone might feel that since he brokered the house, the applicant will have an easier time. • Mr. Cook felt that he need not withdraw since there is no financial interest at stake. • April 3, 1991, Page 4 Mr. Pierce stated that the Commission has asked the City Solicitor for an opinion on conflict of interest and until it is received, it is up to the Commission to decide. Mr. Pierce stated that members were asked at the beginning of the meeting if there would be a problem with Mr. Cook voting and felt he should not be now asked to not vote. Mr. Pierce stated that he had a problem with the fan light and felt it should be under appropriateness since it is visible. Mr. Pierce felt the garage conversion has been there long enough to be part of the fabric. Mr. Pierce felt the height of the glazing should be increased or the garage doors should be restored in order to let them become the light. Mr. Cook withdrew his second. Mr. Shea stated that he liked the idea of high ceilings and felt that short ceilings would be a waste of time. Chairman Harris stated that some of the options include to not have the fan light but have a transom above or have two big double doors • with more glass . Mr. Shea stated that he is not increasing the size of the opening. Mr. Pierce preferred that the existing doors be saved and suggested that the applicant look at Pella doors . Mr. Carr stated that if it is determined that the doors are more than minimally visible they could approve custom made doors with no side lights and no fan light or they could approve the reconstruction of the doors with a transom. Mr. Shea stated that he would like something passed tonight since the carpenter has alreadybeen hired. Mr. Shea asked what can be done tonight. Mr. Carr stated that he could go along with everything but the fanlight, yet. he could go_ along with the fanlight under minimum visibility. Mr. Shea stated that he was told 4 ' doors were not practicle due to their weight. Mr. Shea asked if he could just eliminate the fanlight. Mr. Pierce asked if he would keep the existing molding. Mr. Shea replied in the affirmative. Mr. Pierce stated that he could accept it under appropriateness with a strong recommendation that the application come back with a transom application. Mr. Carr made a motion to deny the Certificate of Appropriateness . April 3, 1991, Page 5 • Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Slam abstained from voting. Mr. Carr made a motion to approve a Certificate of Non- Applicability due to minimum visibility from the public way to replace the existing garage doors with French doors as per drawings submitted with the elimination of the fanlight. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Slam abstained from voting. 1 Chestnut Street This application was withdrawn on March 20, 1991 . 18 Cambridge Street Everett Ware Cady III and Karen Murray Cady presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors for 18 Cambridge Street. The body will be Pratt & Lambert Stone Mill Gray 16 GV-A. The trim will be repainted white as is and the shutters will be repainted black as is . • Mr. Carr made a motion to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 72 Leavitt Street George Maguire, Trustee, presented an application to waive the Demolition Delay Ordinance to demolish a garage at 72 Leavitt Street. Attorney Michael McMahon represented the applicant. Mr. Carr asked if the garage was cinder block. Atty. McMahon replied in the affirmative. Mr. Carr made a motion to waive the Demolition Delay Ordinance for the demolition of the garage at 72 Leavitt Street. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 10 Flint Street Mr. Jerome Riordan. presented an application for a Certificate of Non-applicability to rebuild a rear porch as is, including the first and second floor deck rails . The applicant was not present. Ms . Guy indicated that she had received a complaint from a neighbor that work was being done and had the building department issue a • cease and desist order. It appeared that most of the work has been completed. Pictures were shown along with the building survey form .. a • April 3, 1991, Page 6 completed in 1968. Chairman Harris felt that there has been changes from what was existing. Mr. Carr noted that the front fence was removed and that railings have been removed from the front porch and replaced with 2 x Vs . Mr. Carr made a motion to deny the application as submitted because it did not appear that the work was an exact replacement and that the applicant was not present to answer questions as to whether it was being rebuilt as is . As part of the motion, Mr. Carr requested that the denial note that part of the front porch has apparently been replaced without approval, that the front "fence has been removed and that the applicant must provide evidence that such removal was completed prior to the creation of the district. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 14 Chestnut Street Thomas and Katherine Murray presented an application for a • Certificate of Non-applicability to replace existing roof shingles on the rear extension with the same color and material . The applicants were not present. Chairman Harris stated that it looks like the roof has already been replaced and that it is grey. Chairman Harris stated that she was unsure if the applicants were applying for the former green or grey. Mr. Carr felt that the roof color seemed to be installed and that as installed represented a change over what had been there. Mr. Slam made a motion to continue the application due to the applicant not being present to answer questions . Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. The Commission felt that since the color was not specified, the application was incomplete and that further information was required. 84 Federal Street John & Mary Wathne presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to erect a privacy fence along the rear and west boundaries of their property at 84 Federal Street between their back yard and the F.W. Webb plumbing supply property. Drawings of • two fence options were supplied. Mr. Slam made a motion to approve the application as submitted with • April 3, 1991, Page 7 the owners to select either fence at their option and for the fence to be painted to match the body or trim color of the house. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Preservation Awards The Commission discussed the following nominations . Mr. Slam approved of the Bertram Home as a major institution project. Mr. Carr approved 18 River Street as a major renovation by a homeowner as well as an award for 117 North Street. Chairman Harris nominated Debra Hilbert's house for paint colors . Mr. Carr approved of 1 Dearborn Street and suggested nominating the house next to Salem Oil and Grease. Mr. Slam approved of the pergola at 17 Flint Street. • Other Business Mr. Carr stated that a ballastrade at the front door roof of 357 Essex Street has been removed. Ms . Guy will send the owners a letter. Mr. Glenn Soucy of 40 Derby Street sent a letter requesting a 90 day extension starting April 1, 1991 to complete the work on the deck and stairs and his property. Mr. Pierce made a motion to approve the request. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. The Commision received a copy of a letter addressed to Kevin Daly from Bruce Haskell of 100 Federal Street stating that for financial reasons they do not feel that they will be able to construct their fence until June. Mr. Cook made a motion to approve an extension to comply by the end of June and to inform the homeowners that future requests should be made directly to the Commission. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Sue & Charles Bean of 19 Fowler Street sent a letter complaining about the dumpster at the Bowditch School condominiums . Ms . Guy will check the plans to see if the dumpster fence meets the approved plans . Ms . Guy will send a reply letter to Mr. & Ms . Bean suggesting they contact the DPW or Board of Health. • April 3, 1991, Page 8 A letter was read from Helen Hood on behalf of the Plymouth Antiquarian Society requesting the Commission's policy on Christmas decorating. The Commission received a copy of a letter from the National Park Service to Massachusetts Historical Commission describing the process to test the feasibility of repairing Derby Wharf. The Commission received a letter from the Federal Highway Administration acknowledging receipt of their comments on the Section 106 historical review documentation for the Beverly-Salem Transportation Project. The Commision received a letter from Massachusetts Historical Commission with an enclosed list of MBTA properties that have been determined eligible for inclusion on the National Register. Ms . Guy sent a letter to the owners regarding work being done without approval at 2 Flint Street. • There being no further business, Mr. Cook made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, Jae.of Guy Clthe ommission JG\040391 April 17 , 1991 • SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday , April 17 , 1991 at One Salem Green , Salem , MA at 7 :30 P .M . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Pierce , Mr . Oedel , Mr . Carr , Mr . Slam and Ms . Guy . News Vending Machine Mr . Carr gave a brief update on a report that was given to him from Attorney Kevin Daly with regard to the issues of newspaper vending machines and stated that Attorney Daly was told by the Attorney General 's office that the commission has the right to assert jurisdiction . Mr . Carr added that the Salem News Attorney , John Serafini , stated that the City of Newport, in a 1987 decision , .where the city intended to ban all machines throughout the city , was found unconstitutional . Mr . Carr felt this and othercourt decisions sited were not relative to historic districts . Mr . Carr stated that he feels that the commission should assert jurisdiction and Attorney Daly and him will meet before the next meeting to formulate an opinion . Mr . Carr also felt that there should be a -,consistent position including mailboxes , etc . with guidelines based on areas which differentiate between different environments within the districts. 7 Lynn Street *obin and Arthur ,Bell applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of the fence at 7 Lynn Street . Drawings were submitted of the proposed fence to run along the front of. the property with a fifteen foot opening for a driveway with white pickets , with two seven and one-half foot gates . Robin Bell stated that the reason for the fifteen foot gate is because the original was knocked down . Mr . Carr felt that in prior discussions it was determined that the applicant should try to retain the gate and a long section of, fencing . ' Mr . Carr stated that the'{'enoe—_,_) with a fifteen foot opening $ho s" ;.that it is an apartment building . Mr . Carr also stated that the house at one time had a removable section of fencing not a gate and it was not used for offstreet parking . Mr . Carr wants to see the traditional relationship of a gate and a driveway and the rest of the property line to be balanced . Mr . Carr felt a nine foot opening to a driveway was appropriate . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve a nine foot opening with inswinging gates or a fifteen foot opening with only outswinging gates . There was no second . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve a nine foot opening starting at two feet away from the house with post at two feet and eleven feet and twenty-two feet with no corner post with the fence attached to the building . j�r . Pierce stated that the post`sare for the gate opening and a post is -2- Iot needed at twenty-two feet . r . Carr stated that gap between the pickets and on the fence should be two to three inches and the top of the posts should,b_eyfourinches square four by four capped to be six inches by six inches capped with no more than a four inch diameter ball on the top . Mr . Carr asked if Mr . Bell should be given a choice of a post at twenty-two feet or at the end by the neighbor . Mr . Pierce stated a fence with pickets does not need alot of posts to support it . There was no second . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application consisting of a nine foot driveway opening to begin two feet away from the house and to be framed with posts as drawn with six inch by six inch sloped cap with ball on top , posts to be four inches , driveway opening to have two four and one-half inch % %gates . Fence between near post and house to butt against house and that there be a matching post at the end furthest from the house and the pickets matching the existing fence which shall be reinstalled . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . Mr . Pierce asked for an amendment to Mr . Carr 's motion to specify three to four inches on the ball for the top of the posts . Mr . Carr amended his motion to four inch diameter ball for the top of the posts . Robin Bell asked if he had to have the post at the end by the house since it had not been there . Mr . Carr stated it will look great . 11 were in favor . And so the motion carried . � 78 Federal Street Leonard J . Gilman applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of shutters and a fence at 78 Federal Street . The applicants propose to affix four wooden shutters on the Federal Street side , three or four shutters on -the right side and one on the second floor on the left side closest to Federal Street . Shutters to be fifty-eight inches high and eighteen inches wide , period design and functionally hung and painted black . The fencet -is proposed to be installed along Federal Street to be a wooden picket fence to match the fence of the Pierce Nichols house to runfrom property eastward five feet along Federal Street and eight feet nr`thmrly 4 along side of property towards the rear , three feet high to be� stained gray . Mr . Gilman stated that the fence would be 36 inches high and be painted black and it would be the same type of fence as the Pierce Nichols House . Chairman Harris asked Mr . Gilman if he planned on boxing in the granite post . Mr . Gilman replied in the affirmative . Mr . Gilman stated that he has a contractor who is going to build the fence for him . Chairman Harris suggested to continue the fence and have a gate with an opening into .the driveway . �r . Gilman stated that he would like to go by a picture of the property -3= aken along time ago that he brought with him to the meeting showing he way a fence was around the house which seems to be done in a dowel type fencing . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the proposed fence matching all respects the fence in the photograph with the two left hand posts being located in the same location and one right hand post to be at the end of granite side lot line and the fence to continue along the side lot line ; as far back as possible . The driveway gate is to be a two section gate . There was no second . Chairman Harris stated that posts were needed for the gate . Mr . Oedel suggested detailed drawings on the proposed fence and a site plan . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the shutters in the locationsra stated , for four in the front facade and four on the Federal Street'side facade and' . four in the rear facing the Pierce Nichols house , painted black wit_' option to wait to do rear facade until applicant is able to' install all four sets and to continue the fence portion of the application . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 40 Derby Street Glenn Soucy applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of a window with a glass door at 40 Derby. Street . A picture of the proposed glass door was submitted . The window to be eplaced is on the bottom floor in the rear dtoward ;, the yard site . The oor will be an atri,�m�� door without muntins, ,fitwood, to be painted white . Mr . Slam motioned to approve the Certificate of Non-Applicability . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . Mr . Oedel asked about the visibility of the proposed door . Ms . Guy stated that it would minimally visible . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 248 Lafayette Street John Suldenski applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for painting of shutters in Essex Green and the window .trim painted black;"„ replace and/or repair window sashes that are not currently six over six with new wood six over six sashes , and rebuilding of porch deck and deck supports at 248 Lafayette Street . A Certificate of Non-Applicability was also applied for the repainting of trim-'and the . of),the — a supe ,--s _ . ._ tr t _in rebuilding O .�the pOrCh deck and deckx supports 248 Laf ay ette. St reet., Drawi n'gs and floor plans on the replacement of windows were submitted along with a summary of the condition of each window. Mr . Pierce inspected the house this morning and stated that the original muttons were elegant six over six are replacable and that some sashes at the back of the house would be brought to the front of the building where they will be most seen from a public way and the new 40ash will be installed at the rear of the house . -4- r . Suldenski stated that there would be a total of six new', sashes on he first floor , seven on the second and two on the third , just the sashes . A total of four windows will be moved to different locations . The remaining windows will be reglazed and reconditioned . There are a total of fourty-two windows on the house . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the application for fifteen new window sashes , not to be on the front facade , with the exception of the third floor , moving as proposed , reconditioning as proposed , the shutters to be painted Essex Green in color , muttons and mullions only to be black , front door to be painted Essex Green , porch to be rebuilt and structural support to be replicated in all respects to be stained in slate gray or linseed oil . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the Certificate of Non-Applicability for repainting trim noting that the porch was approved of under a Certificate of Appropriateness . Mr . Slam' seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 10 Summer Street John Suldenski applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the installation of aluminum gutters and downspouts to be painted trim " color and a Certificate of Non-Applicability for repainting to be in 40xisting color at 10 Summer Street . Mr . Carr stated that he would like to see the house repainted . Mr . Suldenski stated that he cannot afford to repaint the entire building1ach year" aid i he buit .h as been,a reoccurring problem why the paint keeps coming off tlding and it is a downspout and a vapor barrier problem . Chairman Harris asked if he has tried putting shims in . Mr . Suldenski replied in the negative and stated that before painting he will score the clapboards in one place per floor and pierce the plastic and replace the clapboard to allow the building to breathe; Mr . Slam stated that he had a problem with the downspout . Mr . Oedel stated that gutters would not effect the paint failure problem but will effect the staining . Chairman Harris stated that heavy grade aluminum was better than light . Mr . Carr asked if the applicant is proposing a gutter that is already allowed by the commission,:- and stated that he wants to "be sure that the gutter is of high quality grade . Mr . Carr stated that the streaking should be helped by a gutter accross t the front and that he could not approve a downspout out front . Mr . Oedel suggested drawings of where the downspouts will be coming down. Mr . Slam suggested details on the gutter . Mr . Suldenski stated that he could bring in a sample . Chairman Harris stated that at some point the stain problem on the paint would have to be fixed and that she did not want a downspout. Y. __.,,sem,, 11 t' the`-front bay andporfico:'C hairmanHarri s added that i_t would not cure' the staining. er`Sl-am motioned'to-approve the'Certificate of'Non-Applicability for -5- epainti6g the building in existing colors . r . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Oedel motioned to continue the Certificate of Hardship for gutters . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 14 Chestnut Street Thomas and Katherine Murray applied for a Certificate on Non-Applicability for the replacement of the roof on the rear extension at 14 Chestnut Street with the same color and "materials . This application is a continuation from the April 3 , 1991 meeting . The applicants were not present . Chairman Harris stated that she spoke with the Murrays and they provided samples of the old shingles and the already installed new shingles . Chairman Harris stated that there was some confusion as to whether new or old shingles wee"e_� on the roof . Chairman Harris stated that as of the last meeting the roof had not been reroofed but that the new roof has already been installed as of tonight without approval from the commission . The new roof is a mott•ied'" roof . Mr . Carr stated that the new roof looks alot lighter and more mottled_ compared to the old roof but that the new lighter shingles tend to �ppear to be more gray . Ir . Pierce stated that that is not the point , and that the Murrays are already in litigation regarding previous work on the property and they went ahead and did something without the commission 's approval . Mr . Carr stated that if the new shingles are substantially identical to what was there the commission is obligated to give the Certificate of Non-Applicability to the Murrays . Chairman Harris suggested approving a Certificate of Non-Applicability and sending a protest letter expressing the feelings of the commission about the Murrays starting work without the commissions approval . Mr . Carr stated that while what was on the roof was green , it was uniform on the entire roof and therefore , this would be a change to a two color roof . Mr . Carr motioned that the commission accept the representation of the applicant and that it is a replacement of the roofing material as existed . Vere was no second. Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the Certificate of Non-Applicability based on the representation by the applicant that the proposed is what was existing on the addition . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . Mr . Slam moved a question . Chairman Harris and Messrs . Slam , Oedel and Pierce were in favor and Mr . Carr was opposed for moving the question . The motion so carried. Chairman Harris and Messrs Slam and Oedel voted in favor of the motion and Messrs Carr and Pierce voted in opposition . The-motion did not carry. Mr . Carr stated he was in favor of the green but wants the whole house �oof to be what it was or if a change to be charcol gray or black l I -6- nder appropriateness and not a two tone roof . r . Carr stated it would be okay if the entire house was that color . Mr . Pierce stated that he disapproves voting for a green roof . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve for the proposed material predicated on the representation by Dr . Murray that the rear ell roof was originally the presented color . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . Mr . Slam moved the question . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . Chairman Harris , Mr . Pierce , Mr . Slam and Mr . Oedel voted in favor and Mr . Carr voted inn opposition . The motion so car.rief _ The motion to approve t e application was voted upon. Chairman Harris,- r'. Pierce;'Mr. -Slam_ and Mr. Oedel v e n favor. Mr. Car oted in ost' n. The mot'on was so arr e Mr C rr stated gia Vie was >n favor o ttve green M sCon AIR only vote or nont�i�p�kiol i oo >f i£ were '151 Federal Street Thomas and Lucille Henry applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the repair of the roof at 151 Federal Street to match existing . Mr . Slam motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Preservation Awards The following were approved for preservation awards: Bertram Home � 7 Flint Street Beaver Street 18 River Street 130 Bridge Street 24 Andrews Street 15 Warren Street 43 Chestnut Street —portico 117 North Street 1 , Dearborn Street and 2 Beaver Street were approved for Honorable Mentions . Approval of Minutes Minutes of 8/5/90 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Minutes of 11/7/90 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Minutes of 11/28/90 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . • -7- Wnutei of 1/2/91 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Minutes of 1/16/91 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Minutes of 2/6/91 Mr . Carr motioned to approve . Mr . pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Other Business Ms . Guy will send a letter to 265 Lafayette Street regarding an arch that was filled in on the windows. A letter was read from MHC to Federal Highway finding_;} that Blubber Hollow is unlikely to contain significant archiological deposits . A letter was read from Kevin Daly to Don Wallaccs attorney offering that the client keep one small skylight at 174 `Federal Street . A letter was read from MHC to Anne Farnum awarding her a ,1991 MHC ifetime preservation award . There being no further business , Mr . Slam_; motioned to adjourn . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , Deborah A . Guy • SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES May 1 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday , May 1 , 1991 at 7 : 30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Slam , Mr . Cook , Mr . Hedstrom and Ms . Guy News Vending Machine Attorney Kevin Daly stated that he believes that if someone complains about the news vending machine a certificate can be required . The commission can regulate news vending machines . Attorney Daly also stated that he called the Salem News 's attorney and gave him'this`j opinion . , He also stated that the commission can look at news vending machines on a case by case basis and there is alot of criteria to judge appropriateness . Ca'IJ Chairman Harris suggested that Attorney Daly send the ,News a letter . Attorney Daly stated that he will talk to Bob Moore the attorney for the state commission and the Salem News will be told to apply forthwith by way of an application . If they say that they will apply he will not send a letter . If they say that they will not apply , he will send a letter . Joan Griffin stated that Beacon Hill has banned news vending machines throughout the historical district in Boston . �s. Griffin also added that the Back Bay is also ',;considering such a an . Ms . Griffin stated that Joe Deverea�Vx/),:was.^ ...�, the attorney and she is trying to obtain his telephone number . Attorney Daly stated that the commission is just trying it to see if it will be challenged . Mr . William Burns presented a news paper clipping on the Beacon Hill issue of news vending machines and surrendered the paper to the commission to which photo copies of the article were made for the commission and Attorney Daly . . Ms . Guy suggested that someone contact the Beacon Hill and Back Bay Commissions . 78 Federal Street Leonard J . Gilman applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a fence at 78 Federal Street . This application is a continuation from the April 17 , 1991 , meeting . The application was withdrawn . -2- 09 Highland Avenue The City of Salem applied for a Waiver of Demolition Delay Ordinance for the gymnasium and the vocational school wing at the Middle School West . Hagai Dvir representing the company doing the architectural design, stated that construction would start this summer if the state approves funding . They will be notified the third week of June if the project can be started . Demolition will not be done before funding approval . Mr . Slam stated that he felt that it was progress for the citizens of Salem and the school and motioned to accept the waiver of demolition delay ordinance . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 29 Washington Street Square The Bertram House , Inc . , applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the change of ballasters and the addition of louvers , and a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign . Chairman Harris read a letter that was sent to the commission from William Carney with the changes that would like to be made to the Bertram House . OALLASTER Mr'. Slam stated that he felt that the application would be acceptable under a Certificate of Appropriateness . Mr . Cook and Mr . Hedstrom were in agreement . Ms . Guy stated that Mr . Pierce had expressed a concern with the light shining at night through the window and could there be a shrub or something to shield the light at night . William Carney suggested that the light be shut off at night so that the light cannot be seen through the louver . Mr . Slam' motioned to approve the changes that were submitted in the drawings on the ballasters under a Certificate of Appropriateness . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . LOUVERS Mr . Slam motioned to approve the application for a Certificate of Hardship for louvers with the provision that screening ( such as landscaping ) is provided so. that the light is not visible at night . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried. Chairman Harris asked about the addition of fencing . William Carney stated that it housed an electrical box . Chairman Harris stated that she does not seean electric entry on the OFlans and that it should not have been located there and that it would -S- �ave been a large part of the discussion. s . Guy read the approved application to which the fence was originally ' approved. William Carney stated that he will ask Staley McDermott about the issue . Mr . Hedstrom suggested that the issue of the fence be put on the next agenda . Chairman Harris stated that Mr . HrJughes ' his presence is requested at the next meeting on the issue . SIGN Drawings were submitted of the proposed sign that will be hung with two wrought iron pieces similar to Sweet Scoops . Mr . Slam asked where the sign will be hung . William Carney stated that the sign will be similar to where the sign is now and it will be hung off the corner of the building following the line of the building hanging free , the border of the sign will be perpendicular to Washington Square and parallel to Mall Street . The sign is to be black with gold lettering , ten feet high ( 48" by 36" ) four feet by three feet to be planted . Mr . Hedstrom stated that the bottom of the sign has to be ten feet from the ground . ` Mr . Slam stated that the sign seems todlarge . William Carney stated that the sign is not that large . Mr . Cook asked if the sign is intended to advertise William Carney replied in the negative and stated that it was mor.'e to Andentify and distinguish . r . Cook stated that he could not see the purpose of this and seems contrary to the dignity of retirement and that it appears to him to look as if it were an advertisement. Mr . Cook also felt that sign detracts from refinement . Chairman Harris suggested a more suttle lettering on the building . William Carney stated that he does not want the front door to look like the entrance to the building . Mr . Slam suggested that the Bertram House install a sign that is similar to the .sign in front of the Home for Aging Women . Mr . Hedstrom suggested locating the sign up at the corner of the building and was afraid that the sign would block the windows on the first floor visually when driving by and asked where does ten feet fall on the elevation of the building . Mr . Slam asked what type of sign was in place before . William Carney stated that there was a plate and the proposed sign was considered carefully . Mr . Slam suggested they look at other signs as the Gardner Pingree , Aged Womens Home and Sweet Scoops . Mr . Hedstrom stated that 'he wants to see a drawing or a picture of where the sign will be placed . Mr . Slam motioned to continue the application for the sign . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion r carried . • L -4- 40 Derby Street Glenn Soucy applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of a door and repainting of molding at 40 Derby Street . Pictures of the new pine doors that will replace the old doors along with a piece of red cedar , the material of the new doors , were submitted . The door is to be installed at the front left .of the house . Mr . Slam stated that he has a problem with the proposed new door and that he has never seen anything like the new doors . Mr . Siam stated that he felt it was not appropriate Mr . Cook asked the age of the house . Mr . Soucy replied that the house was seventy years old . Chairman Harris stated that a paneled door is what is appropriate even if it has no glass . Mr . Soucy stated that he was on a limited budget and that the doors were given to him . Mr . Hedstrom suggested that Mr . Soucy check atthe'� oj d Bostonian salvage yard for a paneled door and that a contemporary door defeats the ambiance of the neighborhood and that the commission is trying to protect the ambiance of the neighborhood . Mr . Soucy asked if they ever had cedar doors then . Chairman Harris stated that they did not put cedar on' a diagonal like the way it is set on the new doors . Mr . Hedstrom asked if the door was a standard size door . Mr . Soucy replied that it was approximately 31 3/4 by 79 1/2 . r . Cook stated that that was a standard door . r . Hedstrom stated he was willing to help Mr . Soucy find a four or six paneled door . Mr . Slam motioned to continue the application . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 15 Hathorne Street Shawn Shea applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness to remove a chain link fence and install a six foot wooden fence and the installation of a rectangular transom at 15 Hathorne Street . f FENCE Pictures of the proposed fence were submitted , not to be painted, with the good side out . The proposed fence is to abut the neighbors fence . Mr . Shea stated that the fence will be higher than the neighbors fence which is five feet . Chairman Harris feels that Mr . Shea 's fence should be the same height as the neighbors fence with the same capping . She also stated that the commission seldom allows a fence that high unless it is in the back of the property . Mr . Shea stated that he needs privacy and that there is playground next to his property with kids playing baseball there all the time damaging �is car and personal property and that the fence will end at four feet J n Hathorne Street . 1 -s- ohairman Harris stated that she feels a great deal of house will be bstructed but a six foot fence . Mr . Cook feels that the proposed fence is acceptable . Mr . Shea stated that the fence will -be tapered from six feet down to four feet and the new fence will be more attractive than the chain link fence that is there . The fence will start to taper at the point where there is six foot perpendicular fence accross the lot . Chairman Harris stated that she wants to see drawings of the proposed fence submitted and the fence would need to be painted . Chairman Harris also stated that she could agree to five feet accross with four feet from the point where the fence meets . Mr . Hedstrom stated he could not visualize from the pictures submitted on what is going on and needs drawings submitted also . Mr . Cook suggested a five foot fence transiting to four feet . Mr . Hedstrom motioned for a fence from Hathorne Street to the existing side yard fence installed at four feet high to be4capped picket )with one inch to one and one-fourth inch spacing with standard fence cap . From the existing side yard fence to the rear lot line to < abut,`the existing—fence,, � . install a five foot flat board capped fence , no visible posts., good_ �—__ side facing Orne Square , with a water board and cap . Between the four foot and five foot section install a transition post being five and one-half feet tall overall and seven inches to seven and one-fourth inches wide . Fence to be painted white the same trim of the house . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . RANSOM 'Wbrawings of the transom were submitted . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted . - Mr . Cook seconded the motion . Chairman Harris felt drawings were needed which show molding and details . Mr . Slam stated that he wants it specified that the transom is to match the side lights and trim to match doors . Mr . Cook stated that he did not have a problem with it and will .take a gamble on it . Chairman Harris stated she could not vote in favor due to inadequate drawings . Mr . Hedstrom stated that there is not enough detail for him to go by . Mr . Slam asked if it was visible from a public way . Chairman Harris replied in affirmative . Mr . Slam withdrew his previous motion and motioned that the application be continued until the next meeting . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 407 Essex Street Miroslaw Kantorosinski applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors at 407 Essex Street . The body is to be dark gray and the trim to be light gray the same as 357 Essex Street . -6- dhairman Harris asked about the railing that was installed in the iddle of the stairway . . Mr . Kantorosinski stated that the building inspector made him put the extra railing up for code . He also stated that he cannot buy non-asbestos shingles for the dormer . Chairman Harris stated that she wants Ms . Guy to ask building inspector regarding the center railing and why they did not make the applicant come back before the commission . Chairman Harris suggested that clap boards be used on the dormer . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to amend Mr . Kantorosinki 's certificate to put cedar clap boards on the dormer , smooth side out , four inches to weather . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application for paint colors . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 192 Federal Street James O 'Hara applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of a first floor porch roof and repairs to the second floor porch at 192 Federal Street Mr . O 'Hara stated that the second floor porch roof is in need of repair and that forty-two inches is needed for code . Pictures were * ubmitted . Mr . O 'Hara further stated that the roof is sagging and that it will eventually collapse and that the staircase has fallen down . Mr . Hedstrom asked if there was an egrees from the first floor . Mr . O 'Hara replied in negative . Chairman Harris preferred more boxed in columns rather than four by fours Mr . Hedstrom asked about the height of the columns . Mr . O 'Hara stated that they would be seven feet by three inches and the hand railing will be repaired for safety reasons along with the first floor deck . Stairs will be put back in,•on the second floor he will rebuild the corner board and replace the railing . He will not remove the columns . All will be painted white . Chairman Harris asked if the posts will be two inches by two inches square . Mr . O 'Hara replied that the posts will be one and one-half inch by one and one-half inch . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to approve the application as submitted . Chairman Harris stated that she feels that there should be a proper cap not a two by four . Mr . Hedstrom agreed . Chairman Harris stated that she would like to see a cap on the second floor as well . Mr . Hedstrom added to his motion for the railing as specified on the drawing , two by four cap beveie;d-tgp and 'to install the stairs with the same spacing of ballasters as second floor all to be painted white . •Mr . Hedstrom added to his motion for the first floor , �y I -7- allasters as drawn two by two to match spacing on second floor . ailing caps to be as per the drawings on reverse side of drawings submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . I! 10 Summer Street John Suldenski applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the installation of gutters and downspouts at 10 Summer. Street . This application is a continuation from the April 17 , 1991 , meeting . The applicant was not present . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to continue the application . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . I 26 Beckford Street Edgar Allard applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of the roof and rain gutters at 26 Beckford Street . Chairman Harris read a letter the commission that was sent from Edgar Allard . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion *arried . 10 Broad Street John and Voni Mastovich applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the installation of french doors and a. casement window at 10 Broad Street . Neither will be visible from a public way . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 12 Andover Street Jeff and Ann Verrill applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of a fence at 12 Andover Street . The existing fence which has fallen down will be replaced with the same vertical one by five board , painted white with one-half inch spacing and a fence cap . Mr . Cook motioned to approve the application with tongue and groove , flat board fence with no gaps showing with cap as shown , water table as previously existing , fence height cannot extend above height of existing post and is to abutt into existing post of fence . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . • -8- �8 Chestnut Street Annie Harris applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of flashing and downspouts at 28 Chestnut Street . This application was continued until the next meeting due to a lack of a quorum . Preservation Fair Discussion Ms . Guy asked the commission if they had any suggestions as to exhibitors for the preservation fair . Ms . Guy said she will contact Stretch Stevens and a salvage yard . Mr . Slam suggested she contact Phil Lowe , furniture maker from Beverly . Berube paints was recommended . Bill Finch , architect consultant was recommended . Mr . Cook suggested an exhibit on old books on interior design of historic houses and to contact R . Murphy Book seller or Derby Square Books . . Mr . Hedstrom suggested ironworks . Chairman Harris suggested a cyrtain exhibit and to call the Beverly Historic Commission to get the minutemen who performed at the Rebecca Nurse homestead . Correspondence Review las . Guy read a letter from .Wayne Souza of 41 Flint Street regarding the skylights . Mr . Slam motioned to accept Mr . Souza 's letter and motioned to close the issue of the skylight . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Ms . Guy stated that she was notified that the city has received a $10 ,000 .00 Survey and Planning Grant to do a Facade Improvement Loan Progam and National Register nominations . Chairman Harris stated that the Facade Improvement Loan Program should follow the secretary of the interior 's standards. There being no further business Mr . Cook motioned to adjourn . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Res ectfully submitted , Deborah A . Guy a SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES May 15 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday , May 15 , 1991 AT 7 : 30 P .M . at One Salem Green in Salem , MA . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Hedstrom , Mr . Carr , Mr . cook , Mr . Stanton , Mr . Oedel and Ms . Guy . Salem Maritime National Historic Site Debbie Hilbert gave a review of the proposed development of the Salem Maritime National Historic Site to better address the interpretation of maritime history . There is anitrhi,r:€_', day public review period for comments . Debbie Hilbert brought plans for the Salem Maritime National Historic Site and stated that there is funding money from congress for the project . Four alternatives were stated to be available . The first is merely for the repair of the wharv'es' . The second includes building a series of warehouses , reconstruction of a historic vessel and a ship building exhibit . Drawings of the Friendship proposed to be built were shown . Debbie Hilbert also stated that dredging has to be done between the wharf to accommodate modern day vessels . Drawings of the proposed warehouses were shown all proposing to indicate that there were a number of warehouses during the ship trading era . The warehouses will not be reconstructions and they want to show in the design that they are not istoric structures . Ms . Hilbert stated that the proposed ship for the harf might be sea worthy but because of -liability they are still considering it . Mr . Oedel suggested a ghosted vessel with a longer life than a sea worthy vessel that may only last twenty-five years . Mr . Carr stated that there is plenty of open space and that he thought it was a terrific idea for the wharf . The fourth alternative is for a museum on Derby Wharf , ghost vessels and day use boat docking . Mr . Cook asked about the cost of the ship . Ms . Hilbert stated that to build and outfit a ship the cost will be about three million dollars soup to nuts . Chairman Harris stated that a real vessel would change Salem from just being thought of as witches and add maritime to which people are not aware of the fact that .Salem once had a major shipping trade which is part of the city 's history as well . Ms . Hilbert stated that people will be encouraged to park in the parking garage and there will be a shuttle that will run from the garage to the wharf . Mr . Carr asked how long it will take to build the vessel . Ms . Hilbert stated that it will take twelve to eighteen months and would like the commission to respond to the idea . Mr . Carr motioned enthusiastically to endorse scheme #2 and felt that alternative schemes were so much less atractive and were not worth considering . If �r . Oedel seconded the motion and stated that four new warehouse opt +I+ a 1 1 -2- tructures can either be good or horrendous depending on design review . r . Oedel also stated that there are comparisons in Amesbury and Portsmith for boat building and he stated that he wants more discussion on the warehouses. - Ms . Hilbert stated that she will meet with the commission as often as they would like and that there is no law requiring them to obtain approval of historical commissions . All were in favor and so the motion carried . ± Chairman Harris asked about a letter of response . Ms . Hilbert stated that there is a public meeting on May 29th and May 30th at Central Wharf and would appreciate comments or concerns. from the commission as well as individual responses . Chairman Harris stated that she did not want to restore Williamsberg but did not want alot of modern materials . She would like to see original materials used and preferred post and beam wood structures . / Mr . Carr stated that he liked ghosting of structures and would like to recreate the idea that the wharf originally had structures on it and felt that the scheme will accomplish that . Ms . Guy asked if there will be underwater archaeology done . Ms. Hilbert stated that testing starts tomorrow . Mr . Oedel would not like the structures to Took too uniform . Ms . Hilbert stated that historically they were uniform insize but not in facades . Chairman Harris asked if there were any modern water-related uses. Mr. Oedel stated that he would like to see a marine biology lab. 10 Summer Street Bohn Suldenski applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the installation f gutters and downspouts at 10 Summer Street . This application is a continuation from the previous meeting . This application was withdrawn . 29 Washington Square John Bertram House , Inc . , applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign at 29 Washington Square . This application was a continuation from the previous meeting . Mr . Cliff Hughes was present representing the Bertram House . The proposed sign if to be hung ten feet from the bottom of the sign to the sidewalk and to be three by four feet„to be black with gold leaf letters , hung similar to that of the Essex Institute . Mr . Carr stated that he feels a free standing sign in front of the elderly home is a balance between need and historic preservation . Mr Carr also stated that he is apprehensive about the size of the proposed sign and wants to see the sign on the right side of the house . Mr . Hughes stated that due to the curved nature of the sign , the square inches is less than the Gardner Pingree sign . Chairman Harris suggested making it low below the windows . Mr . Slam felt that it would look too modern . Mr . Carr stated that there was no problem to the right of the building . �s . Guy suggested installing the sign at an angle . -3- r . Oedel was in agreement adding that the sign would still have risibility . Mr . Carr stated that he wants the sign to stay away from the main block . Mr . Hedstrom stated that he does not want the sign to block the windows . Mr . Cook stated that he liked the idea of the sign being installed at an angle . Mr . Oedel preferred it on an angle and had no problem with the left corner . Mr . Oedel motioned to approve the sign as drawn but to be installed at a forty-five degree angle "®ut to the edge of the building to be no closer than three feet from the building and to be ten feet high from the sidewalk to the bottom of the sign and that proposed sign post and hanging mechanism to be identical to the Crownshield Bentley House sign . Mr . Carr second the motion . Chairman Harris , messrs Stanton , Hedstrom , Oedel and Cook voted in favor . Mr . Carr voted in opposition .'?he motion so carried . Fence Mr . Carr stated that he thought the solid board fence was going to be higher . Mr . Hudhes stated that Mr . McDermott is on vacation and suggested that the commission make up a comprehensive list of everything that the commission has concerns about . Mr . Carr noted gooseneck lamps , lack of gates . Mr . Oedel noted tranformers , height of the fence , spacing of the pickets n the fence , and cap . r . Hughes stated that the Massachustts Electric Company dictated what the electrical capacity should be and that the transformer was to be placed in front of the building but they wanted to save the front of the building . Chairman Harris asked why the transformer was not shown in the plans and that as far as the commission knew there was no transformer with a fence around it and she stated that she feels the whole issue was avoided purposely, Mr . Hughes would like a list . Mr . Carr suggested a clean up meeting with Staley McDermott for everything the commission feels is a concern and motioned to continue the issues until the next meeting to be put on the June 19th agenda . Members are to get the list prepared by June 5th . Mr . Oedel suggested getting someone from Mass Electric to attend . 40 Derby Street Glenn Soucy applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for replacement of a door and molding repainting at 40 Derby Street . This application is continued from the previous meeting . Mr . Hedstrom stated that he had no salvage doors but Old Bostonian salvage has them from seventy-five to one hundred dollars in various sizes . Mr . Carr stated that the cedar doors proposed were not appropriate for the district and that a six paneled door made of only wood or an antique door �ould be approved. R -4- r . Oedel motioned to approve the application with the hopes that it ails . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were opposed and so themotiondid not carry . 4 15 Hathorne Street Shawn Shea applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a transom at 15 Hathorne Street . The application was withdrawn . 337 Essex Street The Salem Athanaeum applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign . Ms . Guy stated that a continuance was requested . Mr . Oedel motioned to continue the application . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor. Mr . Carr abstained . And so the motion carried . 86 Derby Street Thomas Kulak applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for reclapboarding and wall alterations at 86 Derby Street . . Gilliam Walo , the contractor , stated that the vinyl siding had started but is being taken off . He proposes to remove existing clapboards on all sides but the front facade and to clapboard sections where there is- Texture III . All soffits , facia , cornerboards and trim will leave`-tas ` existing , color as existing , no new downspouts but will replace the present downspout if needed . Chairman Harris asked about paint . Mr . Walo stated that color would be Cabot Stain Beige , but it does not match the front , but matches what is along the sides which was approved in 1983 . Chairman Harris stated that she wanted a solid color stain that will not show wood . Mr . Walo stated that the clapboards would be smooth side out . Mr . Oedel stated that the clapboards should be four inches to weather with a water table with a beveled top . Chairman Harris stated that the sills should be kept extended as they are and trim should be required to match existing trim . Mr . Walo stated that the center door will be replaced as is , and the left side door door to be replaced with a six paneled door and the steps would be rebuilt and painted to match existing and that everything would be replaced as existing with fir wood with stain to match existing and door casings and step to be dark brown . Chairman Harris stated that pressure treated would be alright if painted right away . • -5- Mr . Oedel motioned to approve under appropriateness to strip all existing ,lapboards down to sheathing except the front facade , and to reclapboard nd that there be no changes in soffets , facia or trim . Clapboards to 3f, to 4° to -weather, smooth sid-e-out; to-h"ave sTx inch'-corner-,boards, beveled- water-table-no less than 2-x -8 inches. Ali- to be stained with a• solid color Cabot'Stain"-beige-to ma Cchrexisting clapb"ooeeds—trim'Yomatch existing The rear 'side-facades to be-flusK-and-to'allow the addition�of'tuo-new front doors -aid-to replace-miss ngdownspout. The left door tv be Fb6 or, M100 and-thelTente—rdoor to be- F66-2, rebuild step to ma'tcfi-'existing-in_'firrto be r .. ±pai ntedfri m`co lor' " Mr -C ars`seconded the motion:All we rer in favo rand the motion so carried. - - - ^- 21 Beckford Street Neil Shore applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of facia boards and wooden gutters in the rear of 21 Beckford Street . All to be replaced as existing . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted to be painted in existing colors . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 10 Flint Street Jerome Riordan applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability/Certificate- of Appropriateness for the repair/reconstruction of a rear porch . Also a Certificate of Hardship for the removal of a fence and a front *orch railing at 10 Flint Street . Work has already commenced . Chairman Harris stated that the spacing of the ballasters appears wider than they were previously . Mr . Carr asked if the porch was always three stories . Mr . Riordan replied in the affirmative and stated that there was no roof 0 but there was a third story . Mr . Riordan stated that in the 195O 's there was just iron`;.piping and there is a tin frog 1_ He also stated the bottom two floors _had,. square dowels . - Mr . Riordan`,stated the project started out as a repair due to water damage from the gutter and that a fir floor was installed and stated that he thinks that the porch is the same way as it previously existed . Mr . Carr stated that he feels that the railings are spaced too far apart and stated he would like a site visit conducted . Mr . Carr motioned for a site visit to be conducted May 20 , 1991 at 6:30 P .M . , and to continue the application until the next meeting . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 192 Federal Street James O 'Hara applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the repair and replacement of the porches at 192 Federal Street . This application was withdrawn . . r -6- Beacon Street Mary Kordalski applied for a Waiver of Demiltion Delay Ordinance for the demolition of a garage at 8 Beacon Street . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the Waiver of Demoltion . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Chairman Harris stepped down as chairman and Mr . Carr chaired the next application . 28 Chestnut Street Annie Harris applied 'for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of flashing over the front door along with new copper drip edge at rear porch and to install a new downspout for the left side of the house at 28 Chestnut Street to match existing . Mr . Carr acted as chairman for the application . Ms . Harris stated that the flashing will be for the front and rear . Mr . Oedel asked about the material presently on the house . Ms . Harris stated that the downspout was galvanized to be replaced with same and that the drip edge is copper . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion Oarried . Chairman Harris resumed as chairperson . 18 Crombie Street Chairman Harris stated that 18 Crombie Street demolition will go before the SRA and that before the SRA meets on Tuesday , May 28 , 1991 at 3:30 P .M . , a letter should be written . Mr . Carr offered to write the letter . Preservation Fair Ms . Guy stated that she needed members to man the Commissions 's table at the preservation fair . Mr . Cook stated that he could man the table from 2:00 to 3: 00 . Mr . Carr stated that he could man it from 12:00 to 1 :00 . Chairman Harris suggested balloons be hung and sandwich boards be placed outside . Mr . Cook will provide . Correspondence Review Ms . Guy stated that the commission received a letter from Don Wallace'-'s attorney to Kevin Daly asking to settle by removing only two skylights . �r . Carr motioned to deny and reiterate the original proposal . -7- r . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion arried . Ms . Guy stated that the DPW has responded to the commission 's comments as well as the final E .I .R . tifor the Salem/Beverly Transportation Project. Mr . Carr will draft reply comments and they will be gone over at the next meeting . Ms. Guy stated that she received a letter from MHC regarding a nursing center to be located on 7 Loring CH ll5:avenue got effecting any significant Ihistorical or archaeological resources . '- There being no further business Mr . Cook motioned to adjourn . Mr . Oedel seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , deo. I-z,y � Deborah A . Guy �^ • • i SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION • MINUTES June 5 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on June 5 , 1991 , at 7:30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Mr . Carr , Mr . Hedstrom , Mr . Stanton , Mr . Pierce and Ms . Guy . 337 Essex Street Salem Athanaeum , Inc . applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign . This application was a continuation from the previous meeting . This application was withdrawn . 300 Lafayette Street David J . Goggin et al applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the reroofing of the steeple and apron at 300 Lafayette Street . Mr . Goggin stated that the steeple is leaking and it will be painted in existing colors and that the steeple will be repaired as existing in every respect . Mr . Pierce motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion Oarried . 265 Lafayette Street - 265-267 Realty Trust 265-267 , Realty Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for window alterations at 265 Lafayette Street .The applicant proposes to install a woodeeyebrow''1, at the top of the wineo"w openings on the four first floor windows . Mr . Charles McGinnis the contractor from Danvers who proposed the window alterations was present . Mr . Carr asked if the windows were square with a round casing . Mr . McGinnis replied in the affirmative . Mr . Carr asked if the windows were the original wood windows . Mr . McGinnis replied in the affirmative . Mr . Carr asked if the applicant had been before the commission previously . Ms . Guy replied in the affirmative . Mr . Pierce stated that previously the storm window filled the frame and asked if they could be put in three inches higher into the casing above the arch . Mr . McGinnis stated that the screens would not move up and down on the old storms . Mr . Carr asked if the new storm windows were installed three inches , would they operate . �r . McGinnis replied in the affirmative for the sash and no for the -2- torm . He stated that the old storm was a poor storm window and that here should have been a more substantial frame to it and that the new windows have a tie bar on them now . Ms . Guy asked if the storm casing can be installed further out . Mr . Pierce stated that if the arch is flat ,' it should not interfere with the storm . Mr . Carr stated that he does not see how it could be any different . Mr . Pierce stated that the arch has to protrude in order to interfere . Mr . Carr asked if the commission should permit the squaring off of a round type window and felt that the four windows are important to the facade of the building even if it interferes with the screen . He further stated that the first loyalty is to the arch of the window and filling in this kind of thing isnot appropriate . Mr . Carr noted that Gceymore_ on... Essex had to retain the arched windows . Mr . Pierce stated that the commission does not have jurisdiction over storm windows but does have jurisdiction over the frame and the arch . Mr . Hedstrom suggested window stripping . Mr . McGinnis stated that it should be of wooden material . Mr . Hedstrom stated that he would like to see the arch kept as existing and put in a larger storm . Mr . Pierce suggested a moderate shim behind the storm but it would have to be insignificant and not become a permanent part of the window casing . Mr . Carr moved to approve the application as submitted in the hopes that it fails . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . There were no votes in favor . The WWo .tion did not carry . r . Pierce motioned to approve under a Certificate .of Appropriateness ' replacement of storms and screen sashes of the same dimensions as the casing. "'" approximately three inches larger than the current storm and if it is determined that a wood shim is needed to pull the aluminum frame out from the casing far enough to allow the screen to function properly and that it should not become a permanent part of the window casing and should not exceed ­ -" one-fourth inch and that the amount 'of the shim should not be wider than the storm frame . The wooden filler panel at the top of the arch is to be removed and replaced to original condition . Paint casing and shims to match the existing window trim . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . I 10 Flint Street Jerome Riordan applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability and a Certificate of Appropriateness for the repair and reconstruction of the rear porch at 10 Flint Street . An application was also submitted for a Certificate of Hardship for the removal of the fence and front porch railing at 10 Flint Street . This application was a continuation from the previous meeting . Ms . Guy stated that the applicant has requested a continuation . Mr . Hedstrom motioned to postpone the application until the next eeting . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the otion carried . -3- 6 Derb Street A & T Kulak , D . Michalowski applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of vinyl siding at 86 Derby Street . Mr . Pierce motioned to deny the application . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 407 Essex Street Miroslaw Kantorosinski applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors and under rear porch treatment at 407 Essex Street . Body to be either Booth Bay Gray or Cliffside Gray and trim to be white . A lattice grid under the rear porch is proposed like the front . Mr . Kantorosinski stated that the lattice on the rear porch would be painted trim color and that he would like either body color approved . Mr . Carr stated that either color would be appropriate . I Ms . Guy stated that the center railing on the front porch is done according to code and that it is the way it has to be . Mr . Hedstrom motion to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 20-22• Chestnut Street & J Schooley , N . Cohen, C . Barrows applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Essex Green shutter colors at 20-22 Chestnut Street . Mr . Stanton motioned to approve the application as submitted . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Discussion - House of Seven Gables Site Development Architect Brett Donham and Executive Director of the House of Seven Gables Edith Harmon presented to the commission a scaled model and drawings of the proposed construction for the House of Seven Gables for the purpose of being able to handle tourists more efficiently . ' Mr . Donham stated that there is a need for expansion and provisions for the handicapped and elderly people and to more exposure for the activities that go one within the Gables and a more efficient parking lot is greatly needed . The proposed building to be built will be done in clap boarding . Windows to be scaled in size to be painted the same color as the siding . Mr . Pierce asked about the second floor windows . Mr . Donham stated that the proposed windows were to allow some light to filter through . Y . Stanton asked if the chimneys have any function to them . r . Donham replied in the affirmative . -4- �Ir . Stanton asked about the possibility of unexposing the chimneys by oving them inward . Mr . Donham replied :"' that he has not thought about the prospect of unexposing-them and felt itwas a good thought . Mr . Carr felt locating the service entrance on Turner Street is a mistake . Mr . Donham stated that it is mostly for installing double barn doors that is for the purpose of storing lawn mowers , snow blowers , etc . Mr . Carr felt that the current ratio of site to building is balanced and that what is proposed is dangerously tipped toward building . He also stated that he does not like the glass facing the garden and suggested postponing the master plan until it is possible to obtain the remaining two buildings on the block and build a visitor 's center there . Mr . Carr stated that he was not keen on the entryway design and felt , it over accentuates . Ms . Harmon stated that the present site is p, blamati' `- ':`.in inclement weather . Mr . Carr stated that he felt that the glass in the rear appears as a corridor . Mr . Dunham suggested the commission walk the site . Mr . Hedstrom stated that he worried about amount of the glass proposed to be installed on the new building when standing the garden as well as the skylights . Mr . Stanton stated that he does not object to the roofing material and suggested green in color or copper . Mr . Carr asked if the proposed project has been shown to the members of he Gables . s . Harmon replied in the affirmative . Mr . Dunham stated that the development will not effect the number of groups going through the house during the park seasons . Mr . Carr was concerned with the rubbish area by the Retire Becket House . Mr . Carr had a major problem with the rainguard and did not feel everything has to look new as the park service "ub.,'scribes . Ms . Guy suggested an archway in the rear with glass for light and to remove the corridor look . Ms . Guy also stated that the archway is already an element in the garden . I Mr . Pierce agreed that new does not have to,be made to look new . Mr . Pierce also stated that he preferredpdhedy openings or open arches with trellis like a conservatory . Mr . Carr was concerned that by developing to meet demands they may meet a saturation point where the demand ruins what people come for in the first place . Ms. Harmon stated that they are driven by the off-season when the school groups come and the need for handicap accessibility . All members are to meet at the Gables with more architectural designs to be drawn up by Mr . Donham and discuss the project on June 24 , 1991 `I at 6=30 P .M . -5- ertram Home List of Issues Mr . Carr motioned to postpone until the next meeting . Mr . Hedstrom seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . NPS Site Plan Comments Ms. Guy provided a draft letter for the commissions' review . Mr . .Carr will draft a letter emphasizing that they should reconstruct buildings and not create new and not to restrict the whar`Ves?"to only ' large masted Sailing ships. Mr . Carr is to drop draft copy to members over the weekend and hand carry final on Monday . Mr . Carr stated that he did not like platform sailing ships . Mr . Pierce was in agreement . Mr . Stanton does not want to give in on the point of federal pre-emption and added that federal law does not completely emasculate US . Review of Violations/Work Status 51 Summer Street Mr . Stanton stated that he noticed the pediment is painted a darker pink at 51 Summer Street than the rest of the house and wants a letter sent to the owners to request that they paint the inside of the 0)ediment the trim color instead . 7 Carpenter Street Ms . Guy stated that the Newhall Nursing Home asked for an extension for construction until the end of June due to discussions with the Department of Health and Human Services . Mr . Carr stated that he wants a letter stating that an extension is fine but note in the letter to contact the commission if their discussions appear to impact the approved design . OTHER BUSINESS Mr . Hedstrom stated that the owners of 5 Chestnut Street will be wanting to repair a rotted sill and remove a porch that is non-visible . Mr . Carr stated that there should be no problem and that the applicants should apply under non-applicability . Mr . Carr will draft a letter regarding the draft E . I .R . station that the commission has found effect on portions of the Salem-Beverly transportation project and has requested ongoing input in details to minimize any adverse effects . Mr . Pierce stated that the commission should !, .' cond.ur,"__ " with MHC 's determination that the Salem Signal Tower is eligible for the National Register . r . Carr is to drop off copies of a letter to the members over the eekend and hand carry the final on Monday . -6- •The Next Commission meetings will be July 10th and July 24th . Ms. Guy asked that everyone respond to the Culteral Plan Questionnaire . A letter read from MHC to FHWA stating they require more information on Riley Plaza to assess effect . i' A letter was read from MHC to Salem HarborC_iDC requiring more information on work proposed for Peabody and Ward Streets in order to assess effects . II A letter was read from Kevin Daly to the attorney for Don Wallace stating the commission did not accept the settlement for 174 Federal Street . Ms . Guy noted that there is scaffolding at 12 Chestnut Street . Mr . Hedstrom will contact the Bacalls . Two letters were read from Kevin Daly to the attorney for the Salem News regarding news vending machines . Mr . Carr asked that copies be sent to William Burns . Ms . Guy stated that Attorney Daly has indicated the commission should be getting an application soon . Mr . Carr noted that the ballastrade was put back up at 357 Essex Street and suggested sending the owners a thank you for compliance . *here bring no further business Mr . Hedstrom motioned to adjourn . Mr . Pierce seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , Deborah A . Guy • V •' June 19, 1991, 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES JUNE 19 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, June 19, 1991, at 7 : 30 p.m. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. Present were Chairman Harris and Messrs . Oedel, Stanton, Carr, Cook and Ms . Guy. Chairman Harris called the meeting to order. 10 Flint Street Mr. Jerome Riordan presented an application for a Certificate of Non-Applicability and an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the repair and reconstruction of the rear porches to original configuration at his property at 10 Flint Street. Sharon Riordan represented the applicant. Mr. Carr stated that in order to remove any ambiguity, he moved to approve the application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the rear porch repair/reconstruction to match exiting. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • Mr. Riordan presented an application for a Certificate of Hardship for the removal of a fence and front porch railing. The application stated that the post rotted and deteriorated to the point that removal was the only alternative. Chairman Harris asked if the applicant had any financial evidence of hardship to present. Ms . Riordan replied in the negative. Ms . Riordan stated that the front fence and porch railing was rotted and that portions fell and were removed. It was later entirely removed for public safety and a new hand rail was installed. Pictures shown indicate that the hand rail installed appear to be 2 x 4 ' s . Chairman Harris asked if the applicants would consider a .plan over one to two years to reinstall the fence and porch railing back to its original condition. Ms . Riordan replied that while they were not currently in a financial position, she felt it would be better to consider its replacement in one year and that they would want a better fence for the house when possible. Mr. Carr made a motion to deny the application for a Certificate of Hardship due to what is currently there being clearly inappropriate and the applicant not providing evidence of hardship. Mr. Oedel .� seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr made a motion that the applicants be given a period, not • June 19 , 1991, 2 to exceed one year, whereby they must replicate the sidewalk fence and front step railings and that prior to construction, they submit an application and plans for approval by the Commission. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. Ms . Riordan stated that she did not feel that they could realistically build within a year for financial reasons . Mr. Carr stated that he felt a year was reasonable to erect the fence and railing since it has been down so long, but added that if it appears to be a problem at that time, they can request a continuance of the compliance period. Mr. Stanton agreed that it is better to have a deadline for plan submission or construction completion than for just consideration to submit plans . Ms . Riordan asked that they be sent a statement from the City Solicitor explaining under what circumstances that they can be forced to put up a fence. Ms . Riordan stated that the Henshey •property had a front porch missing for eight years . Chairman Harris stated that it was up to the applicant ' s lawyer to request information from the City Solicitor. Mr. Carr stated that there is • an appeal period to Superior Court. Mr. Stanton suggested an amendment to the motion that the vote be recorded on the record title. Mr. Carr so amended his motion. Mr. Oedel seconded the amendment. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 17 Cambridge Street Kathryn Moulison presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for paint colors . The body color requested is either Old Salem Gray or Tobacco Brown. The trim color requested is either Hillsborough Beige or Sandpiper. The doors and shutters are proposed to be Georgian Brick. Chairman Harris and Mr. Carr felt that Old Salem Gray was more appropriate than Tobacco Brown. Paint charts were shown. Mr. Carr made a motion to approve HC-94 Old Salem Grey for the body, Sandpiper #59 for the trim and Redwood for the doors and shutters which would be an in kind replacement. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 44 Chestnut Street • Richard and Meg Zakin presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to build a gate for the existing fence per submitted drawings . The gate will match the existing fence in all • June 19 , 1991, 3 respects including height, style, color and use of materials . The location of the gate will be in the alleyway off the sunporch. The gate will be supported by two 5" x 5" cedar posts topped with a 5" round ball cap in keeping with the caps on the banister of the steps to the sunporch. There will be no frame on the front of the fence. IA site plan was shown indicating the fence will be installed parrallel to the street. Mr. Carr asked if the gate will be the same height as the side lot line fence. Ms . Zakin replied in the affirmative. Mr. Carr made a motion to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Oedel asked what color the gate will be painted. Ms . Zakin stated that it will be painted either white or grey. Mr. Carr amended his motion that the fence beP ainted either white or grey. Chairman Harris felt that the fence posts should be white and the fence should be grey or the lattice color. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so • carried. 370 Essex Street The Trustees of the Salem Public Library presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to lower the height of the white wooden fence that separates the library property from the property at 5 Monroe Street. The request has been made by the owners of 5 Monroe Street. If final height cannot be agreed upon by the library trustees, the Historical Commission and the owners of 5 Monroe Street, the fence height will remain as is . Ms . Guy stated that she received a telephone call from William Guenther who strongly approved the application. Mr. Guenther stated that the current height was out of scale and totally inappropriate. Mr. Cloherty was present representing the Salem Public Library. Mr. Richard Stevens, the owner of 5 Monroe Street, was also present. Chairman Harris asked what height was requested. Mr. Stevens stated that the white fence is 62 1/2 inches tall and the wrought iron fence is 44" tall . • Mr. Carr stated that the white fence top should key the horizontal . Mr. Carr made a motion to approve the lowering of the white fence • June 19 , 1991, 4 so that the top of the white fence lines up with the top of the granite post. Chairman Harris stated that the wooden end post should be removed. Mr. Stevens suggested that the white fence be cut down to the height of the apex of the pickets and leave the posts so as to be higher. Mr. Carr felt that it would not be appropriate. Chairman Harris stated that traditionally, fences would butt into posts . Mr. Carr amended his motion for the wooden post to be removed and the white fence to be continued out to the granite post. Mr. Cloherty noted that only the section facing Essex Street will be lowered and not where the fence returns . Mr. Carr amended his motion to include that there be a curved transition at the interior post to meet where the fence returns . Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • 38 Putnam Street. Jackie Hennessey presented an application to Waive the Demolition Delay Ordinance for the demolition of a garage at 38 Putnam Street. The application states that the demolition was requested per the fire marshall and the garage is falling down. Mr. Carr made a motion to waive the Demolition Delay Ordinance. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion ,so carried. Bertram Home Bertam Home will be put on the next agenda. Mr. Carr will contact Mass . Electric concerning the electric entry. Violations 10 Chestnut Street - Ms . Guy will make a Clerk' s certificate for this property and the other of Mr. Howe' s properties in violation, have them notorized and filed at the Registry of Deeds . Mr. Stanton left the meeting at this time. • Riley Plaza Chairman Harris read a letter dated 6/10/91 from Massachusetts • June 19, 1991, 5 .Historical Commission stating that they have found the proposed work for Riley Plaza will have no effect on historic resources . John and Cindy Fifield of 43 Chestnut Street were present. Mr. Ben Allen of Dexter' s Furs, 231 Washington Street was present. Kim Skerry of 19 Flint Street was present. Mr. William Luster, City Planner was present. Mr. Fifield thanked the Commission for the Preservation Award he was recently given for his home. Mr. Fifield presented a letter to the Commission concerning Riley Plaza. Mr. Fifield stated that through his attorney, he has been invited to go to Massachusetts Historical Commission to participate in discussions concerning effects on historic resources and that , the Historical Commission is invited to attend also. Mr. Fifield noted that Riley Plaza borders 2 to 3 historic districts and the Joshua Ward house. Mr. Fifield described what he felt were problems in traffic, signalling, etc. in the proposed plan. Mr. . Fifield felt that there will be gridlock into the historic districts and it will encourage shortcutting through the McIntire historic district. Mr. Fifield provided copies of portions of • Rizzo Associates ' analysis of the proposed reconstruction. Chairman Harris asked if the analysis is as exists . Mr. Fifield stated that it is a partial from 1989 . Mr. Fifield stated that the project comes within the Section 106 review due to the Joshua Ward House - fence visual and traffic flow. Mr. Fifield stated that the Commission has a right to receive data and to comment as an interested party. Mr. Fifield passed out alternatives that Vaness/Hangen/Bruslin is looking at as proposed by Citizens for a Better Salem. Mr. Fifield felt his plan would allow traffic to flow better so that there is no impact on historic districts, because there will be no traffic backup. The plan proposes a park, which Mr. Fifield stated will be attractive and therefore better for the Joshua Ward House. Mr. Fifield noted that diagonal parking will be better for businesses. Mr. Fifield stated that the City should consider opening the Essex Street mall . Mr. Carr stated that there is now 3 lanes in front of the post office and asked if 3 or 2 would be left there. Mr. Fifield stated that the plan shows 2 but that he recommends 3 . Mr. Carr asked if Mr. Fifield has any idea how many parking spaces there would be with diagonal parking. Mr. Fifield stated that he did not know at this time. Mr. Fifield suggested a parking deck over the old railroad station • and that access could be given to Canal Street from the Police Station over the railroad station. Mr. Fifield felt this would avoid people demolishing buildings around historic structures to • June 19, 1991, 6 create parking lots . Mr. Fifield felt the Rizzo plan 100 second delay for traffic signals was unsafe and that the pedestrian.has to go across 6 lanes of traffic . Mr. Fifield noted that the alternate proposed is only 3 lanes . Mr. Fifield felt that the Rizzo plan will destroy the historic ambience of the Joshua Ward House. Mr. Oedel stated that the question that the Commission can act on is whether the Commission wants to open the Section 106 review for the City' s plan. Mr. Oedel stated that he found exception to MHC ' s letter and that the Commission should send a letter to MHC stating that the Commission finds some impact based on traffic flow. Mr. Carr stated that he would like to table the issue to have an opportunity to review the plans . Ms . Fifield stated that she felt there was only 15 days from the 6/10/91 letter at the most. Ms . Fifield felt there was a need to address the issue so that the option isn't lost. Mr. Luster stated that Mr. Fifield' s suggestion to move the National Park Service visitor center is not do-able. Mr. Luster stated that the Rizzo plan has been worked on for 3 1/2 years and • has received approval by the district, state and Federal Highway Administration. Mr. Luster stated that there is over $250,000 into the design. Ms . Fifield stated that there has been no 106 Review on the Rizzo plan at all . Mr. Allen felt that there has not been as many accidents as implied and that the safety issue is not as big as perceived. Mr. Allen would like to get the source of the accident counts . Mr. Cook stated that the expenditure of money and time does not necessarily make a successful project. Mr. Fifield stated that the Joshua Ward House and the traffic justify a 106 Review. i Mr. Luster stated that the Historic Commission opening up the process based on .just Mr. Fifield' s information would not be proper without having heard from Rizzo Associates . Mr. Luster stated that opening up the process could devastate a project important to the City. Mr. Luster stated that there is no barrier down Washington Street as shown in Mr. Fifield' s marked up drawing of the Rizzo plan. Mr. Carr felt it was difficult to absorb all the information • provided and assess the effects . Mr. Oedel agreed with the comment by Mr. Luster to have Rizzo • June 19 , 1991, 7 Associates provide information. Mr. Oedel stated that he is not convinced that there is no impact. Mr. Oedel felt the Commission needed to be on record as needing to get more information. Mr. Carr asked if there was any way to stall the deadline and get Rizzo Associates in before the Commission. Mr. Fifield stated that he felt the deadline is June 25th. Mr. Oedel stated that the Historic Commission should have been included in discussions from the start and that the Commission should ask MHC for an extension on the comment period. Mr. Oedel stated that 3 or 4 days is not adequate review time for the Commission. Mr. Carr stated that he did not know how hard the deadline of the 25th was, but felt the only way to determine if there is an impact is to hear from Rizzo Associates . Mr. Carr stated that he was prepared to meet with them between regular meetings . Ms . Guy stated that the 106 Review starts when the MDPW sends the information to MHC. If MHC needs more information, the clock stops . When all the information is received, MHC has 15 days to • get comments from interested parties and make a determination of effect. Mr. Carr made a motion to fax a letter to MHC tomorrow stating that the Commission does not have enough information to make a determination of effect, that representatives from Citizens for A Better Salem, the Salem Historical Commission and Rizzo Associates are interested in meeting as soon as possible and that the Commission would like to know if the clock can be stopped. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Fifield requested a copy of the MHC letter. A special meeting for all parties to discuss the project will be held on June 27 , 1991 at 3 : 00 p.m. Salem-Beverly Transportation Project Mr. Carr stated that the EIR for the project has been approved with exception of the effect on the McIntire historic district. Two letters were read ,concerning the project - 6/5/91 MHC to Executive Office of Environmental Affairs & 5/30/91 MHC to FHWA. Mr. Carr provided a copy of the Commission' s response letter for • the EIR. • June 19, 1991, 8 137 Derby Street Ms . Guy stated that Mr. Marks has indicated that they are having a problem with people going to the wrong door. It is suggested that Mr. Marks submit an application to have the sign moved over the door. 15 Cambridge Street Notice was received that the case for 15 Cambridge Street goes to trail on June 20, 1991 at 9 : 30 a.m. in Superior Court in Newburyport. House of Seven Gables There will be a site visit at 6 : 30 p.m. on July 1, 1991 . Chairman Harris noted that the City Council has requested that the building in front of the Gables be condemned. Chairman Harris requested that Ms . Guy ask the Building Inspector if he has received an order for demolition and check if the Demolition Delay Ordinance would still have to be waived. • Ms . Guy stated that she recieved meeting notes .from Brett Donham, Donham & Sweeney Architects, from the June 6th meeting. Chairman Harris stated that Ms . Guy should inform Mr. Donham that they should look into relocating and designing on Derby Street and that the Commission has concerns on the massing of the building. Boston Gas Ms . Guy stated that Mr. Pierce had notified her that work was being done by Boston Gas in the Derby Street district which included moving gas meters on some of the homes . Ms . Guy stated that Stan Bigelow of the Department of Public Works gave her the name of Jim Gannon who is the Beverly Regional Manager for work crews . Mr. Carr will contact Mr. Gannon. Other Business A letter was read from Bruce Haskell of 100 Federal Street stating that the fence has been ordered and should be delivered in 3 weeks . Ms . Guy stated that Kim Brengle had a baby girl weighing 8lbs, 3. oz . born on June 19, 1991 at Beverly Hospital . Historic Salem, Inc. provided a copy of the letter that they sent to the Salem Maritime National Historic Site concerning the draft • site plan. Ms . Guy stated that the July meetings are 7/10 and 7/24 . Mr. Carr . June 19, 1991, 9. made a motion to have only one August meeting on August 14 , 1991 . Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. There being no further business, Mr. Cook motioned to adjourn. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, ileerkof Guy , t Commission JG\JANE\061991 • • June 27, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES JUNE 27 , 1991 A special meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Thursday, June 27 , 1991 at 3 : 00 p.m. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. Present were Chairman Harris and Messrs . Hedstrom, Pierce, Carr and Cook. Mr. Slam entered later in the meeting. Chairman Harris called the meeting to order. RILEY PLAZA Chairman Harris stated that the purpose of this meeting is to discuss if the Commission should urge Massachusetts Historical Commission to reopen the Section 106 Review Process for Riley Plaza based on impact on Salem' s historic districts . Mr. Harold Fitzgerald of Rizzo Associates, Ms . Tamar Zimmerman of Wallace Floyd Associates and City Planner William Luster were present to review the proposed traffic improvements . Mr. Cook asked if the extent of the Commission' s involvement was just for traffic. Chairman Harris replied in the negative and • . stated that the Commission should consider any potential impact on National. Register or local districts . Mr. Pierce asked Chairman Harris to summarize the last meeting concerning this issue. Chairman Harris stated that local citizens were present at the last meeting and that they felt the 106 Review process was not sufficient. They felt that there would be impacts on districts and requested the Commission reopen the 106 Review process . Chairman Harris stated that the 106 Review process has been closed and that she talked to MHC staffpersons Brona Simon and Alan Johnson who said it was closed, but that it could be opened if they missed something. Mr. Carr stated that MHC wrote to FHWA stating that they found "no effect" . Chairman Harris read the letter and stated that she was told verbally that the letter was sent on the last day that MHC could respond. Mr. Luster stated that MHC suggested that the Commission still have this meeting to see if there is a compelling reason to reopen the 106 Review process . Chairman Harris stated that the issues appear to be traffic impact, • wait time and landscaping. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that this project began based on a r • June 27 , 1991, Page 2 transportation need to improve safety and capacity of intersections . The process began in 1985 when Salem stated that there was a need to Federal funding sources . Studies were completed in 1986 and 1987 . In January, 1989 , a comprehensive report was submitted with 6 alternatives which were studied. The alternatives were reviewed by FHWA in Boston, overseen by FHWA in Washington, the Mass . DPW and various agencies within the MDPW. After 1 year review, scheme #5 was approved. Mr. Fitzgerald provided plans on the existing Riley Plaza configuration and the approved scheme. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the proposed will do away with the rotary, which has an unusual amount of accidents, and provide a direct route with a new intersection at Derby, Norman and Washington and a new intersection at Canal, Washington and Mill Streets .. Each intersection will be signalized with coordinated signals . Margin Street will be a one way. The area in front of Dexter and Eaton blocks will be made into a parking area. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that this was the plan shown at the public hearing. Chairman Harris asked about the level of service Mr. Fitzgerald stated that this was a safety improvement project meaning it was safe for vehicles and pedestrians . • Mr. Carr asked what landscaping would be new. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that almost everything will be new, but they have tried to retain some trees . Mr. Carr asked if there were any barriers or fences . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that there were no barriers or fences . Mr. Cook stated that there has been an implication that if someone pushes the traffic signal, there will be gridlock. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the project was reviewed carefully by the funding agencies and there will be no gridlock. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the one page of analysis provided by the Citizens for A Better Salem is only one page of a 1 1/2 inch thick report. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that traditionally pedestrian peak time is at noon while vehicle peak time is in the morning and evening. The one page of analysis shown would be if a pedestrian button was pushed every signal phase at peak hour. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that it would be unlikely and even if done, would not be gridlock. Mr. Luster stated that 18 seconds of 120 second cycle is for pedestrians . Mr. Luster asked if pushed every cycle, would traffic back up into a historic district. Mr. Fitzgerald replied in the negative, adding that some may if it were pushed every single cycle, which would be unlikely, but it would not be significantly more. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that there is a 10 ' wide median strip • at the request of the citizens at the public hearing. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that there will be no mast arms but rather posts with span wire. There will be small pedestrian poles to activate r • June 27 , 1991, Page 3 the signals . Mr. Pierce stated that 18 seconds did not sound like enough to cross the street and was concerned that cars would be backed up after the light turns green or that pedestrians will get frustrated and cross without the signal . Mr. Pierce felt that barriers may be needed to prevent this . Mr. Pierce stated that if there are pedestrian problems it may result in traffic problems and back up into the districts . Mr. Fitzgerald replied that it should work the same as today and not back up into the districts . Mr. Pierce asked how long does a pedestrian have to wait if the button is , pressed at the end of the cycle. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that it would be 1 1/2 minutes . Mr. Pierce asked if a pedestrian will wait that long. Mr. Fitzgerald replied that a car has to and that there will be an amount of time needed for people to adjust to it. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that it will be a beautiful gateway. Mr. Luster stated that it is possible to add a fence down the median if it appears to be a problem provided that FHWA agrees . Mr. Carr asked if traffic will back up at the donut shop area. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that he has seen back up at Norman from the post • office light and did not feel that traffic will back up any more than today, yet will be safer and more organized. Mr. Hedstrom asked if cars can continue to go down Margin Street. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that he will have to check if there is a continued right on the plan. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the people who review these projects scrutinize them highly and that the project received all approvals including those from traffic engineers. Mr. Carr asked if any of the other 5 schemes had a semblance of a rotary system. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that they have tried to get away from the rotary systems where no one knows who goes first. They also try to get away from angular parking into a main thoroughfare . FHWA will not fund angular parking. Mr. Slam entered at this time. The landscape plan was shown which included extending trees through the plan, a plaza area with flagpoles and a granite seating edge, replacing the Riley monument, and some brick crosswalks . Mr. Slam asked if there will be parking at the post office. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that it will be the same as today on one side. Mr. Slam stated that he was hoping there would be more parking. • Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the City is looking into providing additional parking in the Gedney Street area. • June 27 , 1991, Page 4 Mr. Pierce asked if the trees would be mature enough for a 14 ' truck. Ms . Zimmerman stated that they will be 4 to 4 1/2 inch caliper on a 10 ' wide median. Chairman Harris asked about lighting. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that lighting will be historic to match what is going down on Derby Street. Mr. Luster noted that the lights were selected by the Salem Redevelopment Authority for the New Derby Street project. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the light source height is 18 ' with high pressure sodium. Mr. Fitzgerald stated it will illuminate the street as well as the pedestrian areas . Mr. Luster stated that the lights will be taller than those on the Essex Street mall . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that they meet all the criteria and were approved by the FHWA, etc . Mr. Pierce asked the color of the light. Chairman Harris felt it was not within the Commission' s jurisdiction but that the Commission may want to influence under Design Review. Mr. Pierce felt it may be within the Commission' s jurisdiction if it impacts the districts . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that high pressure sodium has a better longevity. Mr. Slam was concerned with pedestrians crossing thru the median. Ms . Zimmerman stated that pedestrians should be discouraged to cross over 3 lanes of planting area. • Mr. Fifield of 43 Chestnut Street felt the lane width of 12-14 ' is six lanes wide, similar to the Lynnway which is six lanes wide. Mr. Fifield stated the per Rizzo' s software, the walk cycle time is approximately 4 seconds per lane. Mr. Fifield felt the proposed will have a declined level of service and will decline to gridlock. Mr. Fifield discussed figures of performance level, ratings and signal cycles in the plan. Mr. Fifield felt the poles for the signals and the intersection will look like a shopping center. Mr. Fifield felt if there is gridlock, cars will cut through Federal Street to avoid Riley Plaza or to Lafayette instead of Canal Street. Mr. Fifield felt that cars coming from the West will cut through streets in the McIntire district and that all of these neighborhoods are used to 25mph traffic. Mr. Fifield stated that the proposed road cannot be fixed if it doesn't work unless the City goes to more lanes, which will require longer waiting signals and the problem will start again. Mr. Fifield questioned a two way design if the one way design had a better level of service. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that he would have to review the reports . Mr. Fifield stated that it was probably due to traffic weaves. Mr. Fifield felt the proposed will tear up the historic character of the downtown. • Mr. Fifield asked the standard level of new construction for level of service. Mr. Fitzgerald replied that he did not know. • June 27 , 1991, Page 5 Mr. Fifield asked the average percentage of time a pedestrian will wait at a traffic signal . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that he did not know and questioned how long Mr. Fifield would wait. Mr. Benjamin Allen of 231 Washington Street asked how many parking spaces would be lost. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that 196 would be lost and that replacement parking is to be provided from Federal funding. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that studies are underway to determine locations . Mr. Allen asked if there were any places yet. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that it is to be determined and that it may not be put in concurrently. Chairman Harris asked if any locations have been selected. Mr. Luster stated that they will be selected in the next couple of weeks and that some include a second tier on the Church Street lot, the corner of Congress and Derby, the Mr. Grocer building lot and Klop Alley. Mr. Allen stated that he is still trying to get accident counts . Mr. Luster stated that a letter was mailed to him yesterday cronicling the accidents from the mid 1980 ' s . Mr. Allen stated that he felt the existing rotary is relatively • safe and that he felt the disruption will not be worthwhile for the end result. Mr. Allen stated that it will hurt businesses in the area. Mr. John Costa of 104A Lafayete Street stated that he was opposed to the plan, felt that it will hurt businesses during construction and felt that the current rotary design could be altered. Cindy Fifield of 43 Chestnut Street stated that she was concerned that if a pedestrian activates the signal every 2 cycles, it will bring the level of service to "F" which will cause backup. Ms . Fifield felt that there are other alternatives which could be better. Ms . Fifield added that the National Park Service will bring in many more visitors and the post office will also cause back ups . Mr. Fifield asked where the detours will be during construction. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that there are 5 phases of construction. Mr. Cook left at this time. Mr. Fitzgerald described how traffic will flow in each phase during construction. Chairman Harris noted that there will be detours to Summer and Gedney. • Mr. Fifield provided a list of merchants signatures from Riley Plaza area and stated that all but one signed as being opposed to the plan. Mr. Fifield stated that only Steve ' s Market would not • June 27, 1991, Page 6. sign and felt it was due to the City providing a loading dock. Ms . Fifield stated that there were enough issues to provide public comment under the 106 Review Process . Chairman Harris closed the public hearing portion of the meeting. Mr. Carr asked if the traffic pattern integrated with the Campbell plan. Mr. Luster replied in the affirmative with the exception of Norman Street which will be a two-way, while the Campbell plan called for Norman to be a one-way. Chairman Harris asked if the Campbell plan will change to this . Mr. Luster stated that the Campbell plan will fit together by keeping Norman a 2 way street. Mr. Carr asked who made the determinations of the six finalists . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that Rizzo Associates recommended them. The FHWA and MDPW reviewed them and requested more information and then all were approved by the City, MDPW and FHWA. Mr. Carr asked if the City had input. Mr. Luster replied in the affirmative. • Mr. Carr asked if anyone had standards on what constitutes effect. Chairman Harris stated that it tends to be more visual than traffic, and can be more acid rain, environmental type issues . Mr. Pierce stated that he was concerned that this 106 Review process just started and the Commission was not involved. Chairman Harris stated that there had been reviews a few years ago with Historic Salem, Inc. , etc. Chairman Harris stated that the project has such public knowledge that MHC assumes that if the Commission has any comments, it will send them. Mr. Slam felt it was water under the bridge and now the Commission has to determine if it wants to reopen the process . Mr. Carr stated that the process does not stop construction and that it just determines if there is effect and tries to mitigate it. Mr. Carr stated that there has been public input process during the public hearings . Chairman Harris stated that landscaping and traffic seem to be issues . Chairman Harris stated that she personally spent time on landscaping issue and felt comfortable with it. Chairman Harris stated that she has tried to go thru the plan and. still did not think that traffic will back up into historic districts but will back up to Jackson and Jefferson which is • exactly where she felt the Commission would want it. Chairman Harris did not feel that traffic would get into the districts and felt the plan may be a plus . • June 27 , 1991, Page 7 Mr. Slam was in agreement and did not see McIntire, Derby, Lafayette or the Common being impacted by it. Mr. Carr stated that when evaluating impact on the .closest district, traffic is less compelling since there is already intolerable traffic. Mr. Carr stated that visually, the Joshua Ward House is already behind a donut store. Mr. Carr stated that it is alot of asphalt already and is going to be alot of asphalt after. Mr. Carr felt that visually it was not compelling enough to open the 106 Review process . Mr. Carr did not feel the . project would make the traffic any worse. Mr. Slam stated that traffic would not back up all the way to Fairfield Street in the Lafayette district. Mr. Pierce stated that the Commission is not traffic engineers and that they have all seen traffic back up. Mr. Pierce was concerned with traffic stopping at the lights and being encouraged to cut through districts to avoid the lights . Chairman Harris stated that anything done for safety involves lights and that lights will slow down traffic some. • The Commission discussed ways that cars might cut through. Mr. Fitzgerald stated that possible cut throughs are assuming the plan would fail of which Mr. Fitzgerald did not feel it would fail . Mr. Pierce asked if the Campbell plan is going to be integrated to discourage shortcuts . Mr. Fitzgerald stated that the Campbell plan portions can be implemented but debate would have to occur with the Mayor' s Office, businesses and the City Council . Mr. Carr asked if anyone felt the visual would justify asking for the 106 Review opening. Mr. Slam felt it was an improvement. Mr. Hedstrom agreed it was an improvement for the Joshua Ward House. Mr. Pierce was concerned about the lighting and scale of signal towers only. Mr. Pierce felt the landscaping was magnificent and does a good job in screening. Mr. Carr asked how tall the poles were for the wires . Mr. Fitzgerald replied that they were 17 1/2 to 24 ' , customed designed. Mr. Carr asked if the flagpole height was standard. Mr. Fitzgerald • stated that it was 30 ' high. Chairman Harris suggested that things like lighting colors be • June 27 , 1991, Page 8 discussed at the next meeting. Chairman Harris stated that she would like to vote on the 106 Review process opening now. Mr. Carr felt the visual was not justification. Mr. Carr asked if anyone thought there would be traffic backup as justification. Mr. Pierce stated that he was fearful of the possibility but was not knowledgeable enough. Mr. Slam made amotion to ask MHC to reopen the 106 review process in hopes that the motion would be defeated. Mr. Pierce seconded the motion. Mr. Pierce voted in favor. Chairman Harris and Messrs . Slam, Hedstrom and Carr voted in opposition. The motion did not carry. Mr. Luster stated that he would be glad to come to the next meeting. There being no further businees, Mr. Carr made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, • JaA. Guy C1 k of the mmission JG\JANE\062791 • r i July 10 , 1991 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday , July 10 , 1991 at 7:30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Chairman Harris , Mr . Slam , Mr . Cook , Mr . Carr and Ms . Guy . It was announced that in order for any application to pass all four votes are needed . 51 Summer Street/28 High Street Walter D . Kallenback , Jr . applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of a porch and steps to match steps on 28 High Street kitchen door , construction of a brick retaining wall for landscape purposes and for the installation of a lattice privacy fence on 28 High Street . Photos were submitted . Mr . Kallenback agreed to go forward with the four member vote . Mr . Slam asked what street the lattice privacy fence would be on . Mr . Kallenback stated that it would be on High Street and does not believe the lattice fence is visible from any part of the district but found out that approval was needed for visibility from any public way . Mr . Carr stated that a Historical Preservation award was given to Mr . Kallenback because of the job he did on his building , but feels Mr . Kallenback took a step backwards with the stairs and the railing and Ohe retaining wall . _ !y r . Kallenback stated that , his father had told the contractors to match the rear—porch without his knowing it . Mr . Carr stated that he has no problem with the trellis but does have a problem with the front stairs and would like to see the granite raised if possible. Mr . Kallenback felt it could not de done . Mr . Carr noted that there was another trellis at the end of the driveway . Chairman Harris asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak on the matter . - ' Maura Smith of 51 Summer Street , apartment #1 , who has lived there for two years , stated that the building has been completely renovated and Mr . Kallenback has beautified the property in and out . The property is on the border and thinks the commission should take it into consideration and work with Mr . Kallenback . Ms . Smith stated that the owner has put alot of money and interest into the property and it has improved the neighborhood . Mr . Carr motioned to close the public hearing . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr stated that he concurs that Mr . Kallenback 's building has undergone a tremendous transformation and has no problem with either trellis, Mr . Carr stated that they must treat the application as if it were .submitted before the work was done . Mr . Carr stated that the fact that -2- the work has already been done cannot influence the decision . He �urther stated that the sta �_aaa`br�k retainng-waii may- Abe decorative but is not an improvement and undermines the facade of the building , and the improvements previously done.. Mr . Carr stated that the step ::#,. � , covered and the porch look stoo•.colonial and would like him to look into installing a second granite step . Mr . Kallenback asked if the step could be wood which goes over the granite step . Mr . Slam stated that drawings would be needed . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the two trellis fences , already constructed at the rear of the property and at the front side of the property , and deny the application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the construction of the front wood stairs and railing and the construction of a brick retaining wall due to the fact that work is not historically appropriate for the historic district . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . A11 were in favor and so 'the motion carried . Chairman Harris felt that the best solution is to raise the existing granite step and put in another piece of granite under as a second step . Mr . Kallenback stated that he wanted the wall to be able to landscape without it washing away . Mr . Carr suggested a fence with a curb no higher than six inches around the front as a barrier for the fence . Chairman Harris stated that some fences act as retaining walls . 49 Derbv Street The 149 Derby Street Condo Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change of color of the awning from existing to blue as per sample submitted with "149" printed on the awning in white letters . Scott Stone , one of the owners , was present at the meeting . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . Mr . Carr stated that both a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the awning replacement and a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change of color should be issued . Mr . Slam so amended his motion . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 248 Lafayette Street The John Clifton House Realty Trust applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of rotting decking on the front and side porches to match existing , repair front door , paint all wood surfaces white both body and trim , green shutters to match existing , move rear agress and reroof asphalt shingles in existing color . A Certificate of Appropriateness was also submitted for the moving of the rear egress as per drawings submitted . -3- George Heller , the prospective buyer of the property , stated that the ear egress door is to remain but would be blocked from the inside and will put in another door opening and that he is buying the house from John Suldenski . Chairman Harris asked the proposed new owner is he is planning on doing the window work that the commission has already approved for John Suldenski to do . Mr . Heller stated that he was not aware of that work but stated that he may want to repair some windows . Mr . -Heller also stated he will need to vent eleven bathrooms through the roof or walls . Chairman Harris stated that it is not clear he cannot . do it but the fact is that there are no drawings submitted to show the commission exactly what he plans on doing , the size of the vents and the color . Mr . Heller stated that it is a requirment according to the building code and that he postp, 'oned passing papers until tomorrow to seeif it is a surmountable problem . Mr . Slam stated that it may not be insurmountable but they need to see drawings . Mr . Carr stated that he would be opposed to moving an egress on the second floor . Mr . Heller stated that the door is on the first floor not the second floor . Mr . Cook stated that he felt the door should be a Certificate of Non-Applicability and motioned to approve . Chairman Harris asked if the motion included all the other items . Mr . Cook withdrew his motion . r . Carr motioned to approve the application for Certificate of ppropYlateneSS to alter the first floor egress tin ho.pes_t_.- fhat_i_t.fails..duerto-.,the fact that the work required approval under a" Certificate of-Non-Applicability . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . There were no votes"" in favor . All were opposed and the motion so carried . Chairman Harris asked that in repairing the door will it include taking , a part the door and putting in new panels and retaining the side pieces . Mr . Heller replied in the affirmative . Chairman Harris asked if the shutters and door will be green and the roofing charcoal grey . Mr . Heller replied in the affirmative . Mr . Slam made a motion to approve the application for Non-Applicability as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . Mr . Carr asked if the decking would be repaired or replaced . Mr . Heller stated that he will repair whatever can be . Mr . Carr asked if the decking would be painted . Mr . Heller stated the existing is natural . The motion was voted on . All were in favor and so the motion carried. 160 Federal Street The Salem School Department applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of three foot by three .foot medex sign lettered on two sides to be located in front of the school on 160 •Federal Street . -4- Mr . Carr motioned to continue the application until the next meeting �ue to no one being there-. to represent the applicant and the application lacking information on location , color , lettering size and how it will be hung . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Ken Wallace of 172 Federal Street stated that a sign in front will suggest parking in front of which there should not be parking on the street . Mr . Carr stated that they could suggest a sign saying parking in the rear and that the commission can only address the application as it impacts historical appropraiteness . Ms . Joyce Wallace of 172 Federal Street and Ms . Susan Glovsky of 131 Federal Street stated they preferred the sign in -the rear of the building . 34 Chestnut Street Trustees of the Stephen Phillips Charitable Trust applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability and a Certificate of Appropriateness for the addition of a door to the front ell section of the carriage house with a larger window to be installed at the right end of the ell . Doorway at the side end of the ell to be enlarged to allow carriages to enter . , rthur Emery ,trustee , was present . Drawings of the existing and roposed were shown . The door to be expanded will be 86 3/4 inches wide . Mr . Carr asked if it was an all brick carriage house . Mr . Emery replied in the affirmative . Chairman Harris stated that not much can be .seen now and probably only minimal can be seen in the winter . Mr . Carr stated that the window existing with the slats is the type of element that is not made anymore but if it cannot be seen then the owner by right can replace it . Mr . Cam -; stated it was a quirky and insignnificant yet a unique element he would hate to remove if visible . Mr . Slam suggested a site visit and will be willing to go along with everything else that was applied for . Mr . Carr motioned the approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for the alterations as proposed in submitted plans with the exception of the hatch window and its replacement and motioned to continue the replacement of the hatch window until the next meeting pending a site visit . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Emery withdrew the application for Non-Applicability . Chairman Harris asked about the roof work at 30 Chestnut Street. Mr . Emery stated they were doing repair work . • -5- On behalf of Bessie Wri§ht Phillips, tEme�yt Emefy applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability or roof and gutter work as existing at 30 Chestnut Street . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted as an inkind replacement . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 3 Beckford Street Holly Dexter Barrett and Thomas F . Barrett applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change of paint color of the front door and three front steps to either Shipmate Blue . Chairman Harris noted that replacement work has commenced . Mr . Barrett stated that they are replacing the porch foundation and column due to termites . Mr . Barrett stated that what is brown will be blue . Chairman Harris stated that light blue is as bad as white for the steps and will show footprints . Mr . Carr stated that they could give an option . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the change of color of the front door and the three steps to either Shipmate Blue or Bedford Blue with the strong recommendation that Bedford Blue be selected . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . On application for a Certificate of Non-Applicability was also applied for by Holly Dexter Barrett and Thomas F . Barrett for the repair of the porch foundation , facia and column base all to match existing . Mr . Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted for the repair of the foundation , facia and column base . No changes in color , material or design . Non-Applicable due to it being an in-kind replacement . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 131 Federal Street Susan G . L . Glovsky applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of standard vents for bathroom fans on Munroe Street and through roof if necessary , installation of a vent for the attic fan on driveway slant of roof , replacement of exterior light fixtures and replacement of front door knocker . Susan G . L . Glovsky also applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of a fence with a comparable fence and gates , i replacement of corner boards , painting of the house in existing colors ( Colonial . Yellow with white trim and black shutters ) and to install three bathroom vent fans . •Chairman Harris asked if the bathroom fans will be in the walls . I -6- s . Glovsky replied in the affirmative . Y . Carr wondered if there could be any waiver of the requirement of vents for historic properties . Chairman Harris suggested shutters be installed with the fans behind the shutters . Ms. Glovsky stated that one room is the back bath and that there has been no window there . Chairman Harris stated she would like to talk to the building inspector on this and felt that it was possible to vent through the roof . Mr . Carr motioned to defer the application pending discussions with the building inspector . There was no second . Ms . Glovsky stated that shutters will be added to all the windows but the one casement window, s'hutters were added to the appropriateness application . Mr . Carr motioned for the installation of three bathroom vents to be located on the roof in a location not visible from any public way , replacement of the fence and gates to match existing , replacement of corner boards to match existing , repainting of the house in existing colors Colonial Yellow with white trim and black shutters under Non-Applicability due to being an in-kind replacement . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr motioned to continue the Certificate of Approrpiateness for the installation of bathroom vents until the next meeting and for the building inspector to be contacted . Wr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . M,s. Glovsky stated that they will remove the adding of a fan from the application . Ms . Glovsky stated that they will take one fan out and replace with a new one just as what is there now . Mr . Carr stated that he will not vote for it and wants a site visit done . Mr . Carr stated that he does not want to clutter the roof but if just replacing what is there with a new vent , he would not want to change shapes . Mr . Carr motioned to continue the roof vents until the next meeting . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Ms . Glovsky withdrew item #3 ( vent on flat roof ) . Ms . Glovsky stated that the light posts fell down last year and they would install the light fixtures in the same location as they exist now at the front of the house and stated that she would like light fixtures that sit on top of the post . Mr . Carr preferred metal poles but stated wood or metal poles were appropriate . Mr . Slam felt that metal was more for public places . • i -7- r . Carr stated that he was concerned about the color of the material f the lanterns . s Mr . Carr motioned to continue the light fixtures application until the next meeting . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so- the motion carried . Mr . Carr asked if the door knocker could possibly be a heavy eagle or lion . Ms . Glovsky stated she would like to install a lionhead antique brass door knocker . Chairman Harris stated if it were antique , it can be more flam boyant because it is heavy . Mr . Carr motioned to continue until the next meeting . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr motioned to to approve the installation of shutters on all windows that currently do not have shutters , except for the kitchen casement window . New shutters to match existing . Conditional that shutters are hung so that when closed , would shed water . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 4 South Pine Street •John and Anna Silva applied for a Certificate of Hardship for a solid three foot fence to run parallel to existing chain link fence at 4 South Pine Street . The applicants were not present . Mr . Carr motioned to continue until the next meeting . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Discussion on Bertram Home The following items the commission has questions and concerns about were mentioned for the list to be presented to Staley McDermott . Fencing around driveway and transformer Fence height to the right of the driveway Electrical system/service Air conditioner Roof mechanical item Spacing between the pickets on the fence Chiller Fence does not abut granite post on the left Coursing in brick on laundry room wall Temporary sign Soil stack on roof •Front Porch not painted Downspout on front porch Exposed aggregrate concrete . i i -8- i •Ms . Guy is to make a list for the next meeting . I Other Business Mr . Carr motioned to extend the commission 's deepest condolences to the Wolfson family over the loss of their son . Ms . Guy stated that Mr . Pierce resigned from the commission . i Mr . Carr motioned to send a letter to Mr . Pierce saying that the commission regrets his resignation and he hopes he will keep in contact . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr motioned to move the August 14 , 1991 meeting to August 7 , 1991 . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Ms . Guy stated that Mr . Don Wallace is being deposed on Monday , July 8, 1991 . Correspondence Review I I Ms . Guy stated that Ms . Gina on Derby Street sent a letter asking if she could paint the temporary sign which can be turned over at night hen closed . Above will be the word "open" -tw°ll be Mrs.-cine and below`will 6e an-arrow ointing to the door . Ms . Guy stated that she believes that' the --} i commission has no jurisdiction over the request since it is a temporary open/closed sign . Ms . Guy stated that Mass Historic sent a letter to FHWA stating their effect findings on the Salem-Beverly transportation project . Ms . Guy stated that she received a letter from MHC to ""Camp , Dresser and McGee regarding their receipt of the cultural reconnaissance survey for the SESD secondary treatment plant as part of the section 106 review process . Ms . Guy stated that she received aletter from MHC giving their opinion that the Historic Districts Act does not prohibit the commission from reviewing proposed work to determine that such change constitutes ordinary repair and maintenance . Work Status/Violations Mr . Carr stated that he wants a letter sent to John Suldenski requesting a status report on the laundry mat . I • -9- r . Carr stated that Ed Mello has removed his black asphalt shingles nd installed white shingles . Mr . Carr will speak to' Mr . Mello . Chairman Harris asked Ms . Guy to find out when Mr . Luster will be on the agenda to review the Riley Plaza Plans . Chairman Harris stated she has lighting concerns and preferrs the pinkish/yellow hue . Chairman Harris stated that the Bacall 's at 12 Chestnut Street were repairing storm windows . Mr . Carr asked Ms . Guy to check the status of the news vending machines with Mr . Daly . Ms . Guy stated . that the Building Department has not issued an order to demolish 117 Derby Street . Ms . Guy stated that the Guinee trial is July 18 , 1991 . There being no further business Mr . Slam motioned to adjourn . Mr . Carr seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , A4� • Deborah A . Guy • s July 24 , 1991 • SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday , July 24 , 1991 at 7: 30 P .M . at One Salem Green , Salem , MA . In attendance were Mr . Carr , Mr . Stanton , Mr . Slam , Mr . Cook and Ms . Guy . Mr . Carr presided as chairman of the commission . 117 Derby Street Frederick Dominick applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the demolition of a building at 117 Derby Street to be replaced with appropriate landscaping and an asphalt parking lot . Mr . Carr stated that there are only four memebers present , thereby requiring all four votes to pass on any application and that Mr . Cook must excuse himself from this application, �Since only three members of the commission can vote on this application ,the application has to be continued until the next meeting on August 7 , 1991 . Mr . Slam motioned to continue the application until the next meeting . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Carr requested that a notice of the meeting be sent to the Bystrom 's at 42 Turner Street . 60 Federal Street The City of Salem School Department applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign as per submitted drawings , two sided , to be hung from an existing bracket at 160 Federal Street . Background to be painted dark green with yellow lettering with a";) line drawing of a globe in either maroon or chinese red . Pam Appleton , Principal of the Federal Street School , stated that the sign would be hung off of an existing hung bracket to be painted dark green with yellow lettering . Mr . Slam stated that abutters of the school were at the last meeting and they felt that by erecting a sign it would prompt parking in the front of the school . Ms . Appleton stated that communications regarding parking have been sent to parents and staff and that she has no problem with attaching a sign on the fence stating that parking in the rear and that all the buses park in the,,Tear of the building . Ms . Appleton stated that the only congestion is at drop off times in the morning and at dismissal when students are escorted to cars . Martha Jarnis of 155 Federal Street stated that the cars parking on Federal Street is a problem and all parking should be done at the rear of the school because residents cannot get access to their driveways or parallel park.~ .2because of the congestion . Mr . Jarnis suggested that children be escorted to the rear and have drop-offs there . �r . Appleton stated that she was concerned with safety since they could 4 -2- �not control where parents would drop off around the buses . r . Jarnis suggested the creation of a traffic flow pattern . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 34 Chestnut Street In continuation from the last meeting, Trustees of the Stephen Phillips Charitable Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace a hatch window . Drawings were submitted .' Mr . Carr stated that he would like to encourage the applicants to maintain the hatch window because it is a period element item on the building directly related Ms . Guy stated that neither she nor Chairman Harris could see the window tothe, ,. i Mr . Stanton stated that he could not see it either . carriage Mr . Slam motioned to change the application to a Certificate of h se. Non-Applicability from a Certificate of Appropriateness and to approve the hatch window replacement but to encourage the applicants tof -�;:setain it . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 4 South Pine Street John and Anna Silva applied for an Application of Certificate of Hardship for a solid three foot fence running parallel to an existing chain link &ence . This application was withdrawn . 157 Federal Street Shelby Hypes applied for a Certificate of appropriateness for removal of the asbestos roofing shingles from rear dormer and restore to cedar clapboards to match remaining dormers . Repair clapboards , sills and other decorative elements requiring repair . All to be repaired to match existing with no changes in color , material and design . Mr . Stanton asked if the rear dormer was slate . Ms . Hypes replied in the negative . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 84 Federal Street John and Mary Wathne applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of aluminum gutter system with wooden system as per submitted drawings for the front porch only , and a Certificate of Non-Applicability to apply light green copper polymer coating to the front porch roof . Exposed edges to be reflashed as per submitted sketches and green coating 4jo be .covered; ',' with black pitch . -3- Or . Carr asked if the were proposing the work for the front Y porch only . Mr . Wathne replied in the affirmative and stated that they would like the roof a light green but realizes that it is inappropriate and will go with gray or black . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application conditional that the polymer be black . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 385 Derby Street The Grace Episcopal Church applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability to scrape , caulk and repaint the clapboards on the Essex Street front of the church to match the painted brick side walls with shutters to be temporarily removed . Deborah Papps stated that the church was not planning on doing the work this summer but that the church received a donation and there are people who are willing to do the painting and that the shutters are in terrible disrepair but a donation is also needed in order to replace them . They would like to save them until they can get a donation to repair them and put them back up . Mr . Carr asked what would be the problem with storing them on the building after the building is painted . Ms . Papps stated that the shutters are not original to the house and that *hey could not have been put on the house until around 1905 . r . Carr stated that they could have been put on the church by 1830 . Mr . Cook stated that he would like to see them on the building but is willing to give the church a period of time in which to temporarily remove them and that the church could request an extension if they could not meet the time frame . Mr . Cook motioned to accept the application as submitted except with the exception that the shutters be reattached to the building after painting and to approve necessary shutter repairs . Mr . Slam felt that the application should be under a Certificate of Appropriateness not a Certificate of Non-Applicability since the color is a change . Mr . Cook withdrew his motion and motioned to amend the Certificate of Non-Applicability to a Certificate of Appropriateness and to waive the public hearing and approve the removal of the shutters and approve the repair and repainting of the shutters with the shutters being put back on the building after the building has been repainted and the shutters on the sides of the building are to be brought around to the front and to add shutters to .the sides of the building where they are now missing and to approve the painting of the building to match the painted brick side walls . Mr . Slam seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Ms . Papps stated that she has an application for a Certificate of �Ppropriateness submitted for the next meeting and she would wish to iithdraw the application . ♦ a, -4- &31 Federal Street In continuation from the last meeting Susan Glovsky applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of bathroom vents , replacement of exterior light ,fixture and replacement of front door knocker . The applicant asked for a continuation of this application . Mr . Stanton motioned to continue the application until the next meeting . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so that motion carried . 364-366 Essex Street - Edward Mello applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability to repaint the trim and doors in existing white with no change to material or design . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the application as submitted . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Other Business Mr . Slam stated that the city council passed an order to formulate a plan to demolish the East Branch Library and and replace it with a parking lot . Mr . Slam presented a draft letter for the commission to review . amendments were made to the draft . draft letter to be sent to the city counsel . Mr . Slam motioned to accept the letter as amended for submission to the City Council . Mr . Cook seconded the motion All were in favor and so the motion carried . Mr . Slam motioned to invite Cynthia Pollack to sit with the commission and discuss the possible re-use of the house by the National Park Service . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . 0 Skerry Street Mark Petit applied for a Waiver of Demolition Delay Ordinance for the demolition of a barn at this address . The applicant was not present Mr . Slam motioned to continue the application until the next meeting . Mr . Cook seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Bertram Home Ms . Guy stated that a letter needs to be drafted and sent to the Bertram Home from the list the commission designed . Ms . Guy will send . Correspondence dews Vending Machine Ms. Guy read a letter from Kevin Daly to John Serafini which requested that they file the appropriate applications . Ms . Guy stated that Mr . Daly spoke to Mr . Serafini , Jr . , and that he apologized and will apply for a certificate for the news vending machine within the next week . Mr . Carr asked that a copy of the letter be sent to Mr . Burns . Ms . Guy stated that she received a letter from John Fifield of the MHC stating that they will not reopen the review of the proposed reconstruction project of Riley Plaza . Mr . Guy stated that she has not received an application from 18 River Street regarding the half erected fence . Ms . Guy will send a letter . Violations/Work Status 7 Lynn Street Mr . Carr stated that the fence put is not as approved and that a letter _ should be . o wner a -sent-ao the� requesting he come to see_.the, Commission Jor a quick solution. 2 Flint Street *s . Guy stated that the owners of 2 Flint Street have started to erect a deck atthis address and that they still have not replied to her letter dated April 2 , 1991 . 30 Warren Street. Mr . Stanton stated that a roof deck was replaced with a pressure treated roof deck that is now visible' from a public way . Ms . Guy is to send a letter to the owners . r There being no further business Mr . Slam motioned to adjourn . Mr . Stanton seconded the motion . All were in favor and so the motion carried . Respectfully submitted , Deborah A . Guy • August 7 , 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 7 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on August 7, 1991 at One Salem Green, Salem, MA at 7 : 30 P.M. In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Hedstrom, Mr. Oedel, Mr. Slam, Mr. Stanton, Mr. Carr and Ms . Guy. 131 Federal Street Susan Glovsky applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of bathroom vents, replacement of exterior light fixture and replacement of front door knocker at 131 Federal St. This application was a continuation from the previous meeting. Ms . Guy stated that the applicant has requested another continuance because they have not had enough time to research the appropriate replacement parts for the exterior light and door knocker. Mr. Slam motioned to continue until the next meeting. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Hedstrom abstained from voting. • 117 Derby Street Frederick Dominick applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the demolition of a building at 117 Derby Street to be replaced with appropriate landscaping and asphalt parking lot. This application was a continuation from the previous meeting. Alfred A. Dobbs, attorney for the applicant, was present. Chairman Harris stated that she was told 117 Derby Street is no longer under agreement with the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Dobbs stated that she was told incorrectly and that it is still under agreement. Mr. Slam motioned to deny the application because such demolition would do great harm to the streetscape. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. Mr. Carr stated that a denial would not necessarily be based on the building' s historical or architectural architectural significance but because the building occupies a place on the street. Therefore, the commission cannot approve of demolition without drawings showing specifically what will be going in its place. Mr. Carr stated that it would look like a missing tooth. . Mr. Slam stated that he would not agree that landscaping is an appropriate replacement. Mr. Slam added, as decrepid as the building is, it is more appropriate than a parking lot. v { August 7, 1991, Page 2 • Chairman Harris asked if there was any comments from the audience. Mr. Edward Luzinski of 26 Hardy Street stated that he would like to see the building razed because it is an eyesore to the neighborhood. Mr. Luzinski felt that people mistake it as the historic site and stated that he would like it eventually razed. Mr. David Bystrome of 42 Turner Street stated that he would not like to see it demolished without seeing what would be replacing the building first and whatever goes there will change the nature of the neighborhood. Mr. Bystrome felt .that it would look awkward if it were just a parking lot with his house in the middle. Mr. Carr stated to Mr. Dobbs that even if the commission votes the application down, it would not mean that the applicant can not come back later in time with a new application for demolition. Mr. Carr stated that if the Commission received a solid proposal, they would reconsider the demolition. Chairman Harris closed the public meeting. The motion was voted upon. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 0 Skerry Street Court • Mark Petit applied for a Waiver of Demotion Delay Ordinance for the demolition of a barn at 0 Skerry Street Court. This application was a continuation from the previous meeting. Mr. Petit stated that only the rear part of the building would be demolished. Mr. Slam motioned to approve the applications as submitted. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 14 Flint Street Thomas and Susan Durkin applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness the reconstruction of a chimney which had been removed at roof level and topped off at the roof and covered over with boards and shingles . The new chimney will be constructed to match the two existing chimneys in height, width and brick. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for the reconstruction of the chimney to match existing chimneys in height, width, brick, mortar joints and mortar color as 'per submitted drawings . Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • 248 Lafayette Street George and Joan I . Heller applied for a Certificate of P • August 7 , 1991, Page 3 Appropriateness to vent interior bathroom fans, to restain the front, rear and side decks Deck Grey and to repair windows that have broken glass and mullions . The applicants also applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the repair of the rear deck and railings, to repair windows that have broken glass and mullions and to stain the front, rear and side decks in Deck Grey. David Jaquith, the architect for the owner, was present at the meeting with new plans for the proposed work. Mr. Jaquith stated that nine of the fans will vent out through an existing vent and that two fans will be vented together in the back on the flat roof through a new vent on a 9" pedestal as shown on page two of the plans . Mr. Heller stated that on the windows, a few are really rotted and some sashes may be need to be replaced. Mr. Oedel suggested allowing Mr. Heller to replace the sashes with wood six over six but that the number replaced not exceed five. Mr. Heller stated that the deck and railing would be stained deck grey• Mr. Carr motioned to approve the Certificate of Non-Applicability. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so • carried. Mr. Heller withdrew the restaining of the decks from the Certificate of Appropriateness . Mr. Oedel made a motion to approve the application for a . Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of one vent on a nine inch pedestal as per submitted plans to vent bathrooms, and repair windows as needed conditional that if any window sash requires replacement, no more than five sets of sash only may be replaced. All replacements to be wood, six over six, single glaze with intregal muntins and mullions to match existing. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. 330 Essex Street 330 Essex Street Condominium Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for tearing down of a fence currently dividing their property from 328 Essex Street, an ad hoc construction of several different styles and heights, and replace it with a uniform screen fence. Pictures of the present and proposed fence were submitted. The height of the old fence is 513" tall at its highest point and the proposed fence will be six feet tall to be painted off white to match the trim of the house with a gate at the rear to be replaced by a ten foot wide gate in the same style as the new • fence with posts on both sides . Gate to have double doors . Carter Vinson, Tom Levine and Jan O'Connell, the owners of the • August 7 , 1991, Page 4 condominiums were present at the meeting. Mr. Vinson stated that the fence would have a straight trim painted a cream color, to be six feet tall with a post. Mr. Slam stated that it is basically a flatboard fence with trim. Mr. Hedstrom stated that there is no space between the boards . Mr. Vinson stated that the boards will be four inches wide. Mr. Carr asked suggested the applicants consider either beefy posts or concealed posts . Mr. Vinson stated that the trim will be uniform on the entire top of the fence and the posts would be the same color as the fence. Mr. Oedel asked if the black picket fence or post on Essex Street was being replaced. Mr. Levin replied in the negative and stated that they want to put a riser at the front to start at the height of the post and rise in the first length up to 6 ' . Chairman Harris stated that she was concerned that the 6 ' height of the fence being in front of the house that close to the street would conceal the windows . Mr. Slam stated that he has no problem with the proposal but • preferred the 6 ' to start down further. Mr. Slam felt that due to there being so many variables, he would prefer a plan be drawn up showing the variables of the fence along with a plot plan. Mr. Oedel motioned to continue the application until the next meeting. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Levine stated that the fence will not go completely to the back property line. Mr. Oedel stated that the location should be shown on the plot plan. 385 Essex Street The Grace Episcopal Church applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for trim colors . Ms . Guy stated that this application was withdrawn. 34 Chestnut Street Trustees of the Stephen Phillips Charitable Trust applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for gutter repair work to the front of the carriage house and roof repair on the ell section. Mr. Carr motioned approve the application for the repair of gutters and roof of the carriage house conditional that it be a complete replication of what is existing. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. j • August 7 , 1991, Page 5 All were in favor and the motion so carried. Violations/Work Status 7 Lynn Street - Mr. Carr stated that the applicant should cut the post flat to the height of the pickets on the fence. Mr. Carr motioned to continue discussion of this violation until the next meeting. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. 4 Andover St. - Ms . Guy stated that she has noticed that 4 Andover Street is reclapboarding the front of the house. Mr. Carr stated that he will talk to them and wants them put on the next agenda. 2 Flint Street - Ms . Guy is to send a second letter, certified with a deadline that they reply in 10 days or it will be referred to the City Solicitor for enforcement. 362 Essex Street - Mr. Stanton suggest that the Commission place a Clerk's Certificate on record titles and deeds for outstanding work not completed or for work in violation. Mr. Oedel moved that the commission place a Clerk' s Certificate as to violation on the record title of 362 Essex Street and send a letter saying that it • will be done for failure to comply with a vote of the Commission. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 271 Lafayette Street - Mr. Hedstrom motioned to place a Clerk' s Certificate of violation on the record title for 271 Lafayette Street. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Correspondence Review Ms . Guy read a letter the commission received from Mr. Riordon of 10 Flint Street requesting a review of the Commission' s decision. Ms . Guy will send a reply letter starting that the City of Salem does not provide in its ordinance for a review procedure of the Commission' s decisions and that he should appeal to Superior Court. Ms . Guy read a letter to the National Park Service from Massachusetts Historical Commission regarding their review of the Draft Site Plan and Environmental Assessment for the Salem Maritime National Historic Site. Ms . Guy stated that the Advisory Council sent FHWA a letter regarding the Salem-Beverly Transportation project stating that the North River Canal should be submitted to the National Register for • determination of eligibility per the request of Jim Treadwell. Chairman Harris asked Ms . Guy to find out what the other four properties are that Mr. Treadwell requested be sent to the National � r • August 7, 1991, Page 6 Register. Bertram Home After Mr. Carr talks with Mass . Electric, Ms . Guy will send the Bertram Home the list of concerns and ask them to come to an upcoming meeting. Chestnut Street Lighting Mr. Carr stated that the power company wants to replace the Chestnut Street lighting, but not in kind. They plan on using the large overhead cobra lights . Mr. Carr stated that the commission needs to reconvene, Chairman Harris, Mr. Carr, Mr. Burns and Mr. Padjen, Mr. Tuttle, etc. to determine a consensus of what to put into a letter to Mass . Electric. Mr. Oedel stated that he felt that they should be given an option to replace as is or as per documentative pictures and to state that it is their financial responsibility. Mr. Carr stated that he does not want to loose the opportunity to get period lighting and that he would like to have an informal meeting first and then send an upbeat letter. Mr. Slam motioned for Mr. Carr to send a letter as he pleases and • send it to Massachusetts Electric. Mr. Oedel suggested an amendment to Mr. Slam' s motion that this be done within five days . Mr. Slam so amended his motion. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. News Vending Machine Chairman Harris stated that John Serafini Jr. will be applying on behalf of the Salem News this month. Mr. Carr stated that the variety store is reopening tomorrow. Ms . Guy stated she sent a letter to the Beacon Hill Historic Commission requesting more information on Beacon Hill and Back Bay outlawing news vending machines . Riley Plaza Plans Ms . Guy stated that there is a moratorium on the project and it cannot be discussed. Other Business Chairman Harris motioned for the meeting of September 4 , 1991 to be moved up to September 11, 1991 . Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Ms . Guy provided a draft letter .to be sent to all realtors as was motioned for by Mr. Hedstrom at a past meeting. Mr. Oedel motioned to approve the letter. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were • August 7, 1991, Page 7 in favor and so the motion carried. Ms . Guy passed out the annual report to the commission and requested that they take a look at it. Approval of Minutes Mr. Oedel motioned to approve the minutes. of March 20, 1991 and April 3, 1991 . Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. There being no further business Mr. Hedstrom motioned to adjourn. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Deborah A. Guy JG\JG\080791 • • August 21, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES AUGUST 21, 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, August 21, 1991 at One Salem Green,Salem, MA. In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Stanton, Mr. Slam, Mr. Cook, Mr. Oedel and Ms . Guy. 131 Federal Street Susan G. L. Glovsky applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of vents, the replacement of exterior light fixtures, and the replacement of front door knocker. This application was a continuation from the previous meeting. Ms . Glovsky also presented a new application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a skylight on the flat portion of the roof above the back staircase. The skylight is to be 22 by 55 1/2 inches, 62 Velux. The application states that the long side edge of the frame would be the only visible element. Ms . Glovsky stated that she would like to withdraw the application for the vents, light fixture and door knocker. She also stated • that she will not be using a 62 velux skylight as stated in , the application applied for and but will now be using 22 by 46 skylight . Ms . Glovsky added that only the two and one-half inch high bronze border that will be visible from the street. Mr. Slam asked if there are any skylights on the roof now. Chairman Harris stated that there is one in the center, high on the main roof . Mr. Stanton asked if the -glass will be flat. Ms . Glovsky replied in the affirmative. Mr. Oedel asked if the glass will be fixed or moveable.Ms . Glovsky stated that it will be fixed. Mr. Slam stated that since he cannot make out the roof in the photo, that it must be non-visible. Ms . Glovsky stated that you really have to look for the skylight in order to see it. Chairman Harris suggested that Mr. Hedstrom place a 2 x 4 mock up on the roof for the members to observe. Mr. Slam asked Ms . Glovsky what her time frame was . Ms . Glovsky stated that she would like to finish the project within the next couple of weeks . • Mr. Oedel agreed that the commission should have a site visit. Chairman Harris asked if Mr. Hedstrom could put the board up in the place where the skylight will be and leave it there for a couple of • August 21, 1991, Page 2 days . Mr. Oedel to continue the application for the skylight until the next meeting. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 330 Essex Street 330 Essex Street -Condominium Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the tearing down of a fence currently dividing their property from 328 Essex Street, an ad hoc construction of several different styles and heights, and replacing it with a uniform screen fence. Pictures of the present and proposed fence were submitted. The height of the proposed fence will be six feet tall to be painted off white to match the trim of the house, with a gate at the rear to be replaced by a ten foot wide gate in the same style as the new fence with posts on both sides . Gate to have double doors . This application is a continuation from the previous meeting. Carter Vinson and. Tom Levin, two of the owners of the condominiums were present at the meeting and submitted new drawings with two options, preferring option #1 . The fence is to be 5 ' 3" at the • front, which is what is existing, to be off white #925 or #967 as per paint samples . The fence will go back to the pine tree where there is transition with the existing fence. New double gates will be approximately where existing gate. Mr. Vinson stated that the purpose of the double gate is for the delivery of firewood, etc. Mr. Slam asked if the boards will be butting. Mr. Vinson replied in the affirmative. Mr. Cook stated that he felt that the molding on the top would not be historically appropriate to the post. Mr. Oedel motioned to approve #1 as submitted with option of either white paint according to samples submitted. Chairman Harris asked if the fence will be of smooth finish or rough cut. Mr. Vinson stated that it will be a smooth finish. Mr. Oedel asked who is doing the construction work. Mr. Levin stated that Expert Fence in Peabody is doing the work. Chairman Harris suggested a watertable and a wider top flatboard, smooth finish without knots . Mr. Stanton stated that the edge will . have to be beveled on the watertable. Mr. Oedel amended his motion for the boards to be butted, with no • August 21, 1991, Page 3 space between, flatboard with smooth finish without knots, 6-8" random width boards in clear #2 pine or better, with beveled water table of eight inches, with top trimboard of 6" , with cap as shown in photograph numbered "1" . All knots to be primed with oil primer prior to painting. Minimum four by four posts to be used as supports on inside of fence, not to be visible from front side of fence. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. 17 Cambridge Street Kathryn Moulison applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness to excavate approximately forty-nine feet along the side of the dwelling with a depth of 1" by 6" to be filled with concrete to prevent water seepage. Drawings were submitted. Ms . Moulison stated that retainer wall is to prevent seepage of water into the cellar of the house. Mr. Slam asked how high above the grade it will be. Ms . Moulison stated that it will be approximately one inch above the ground and that they will try to fit it under the baseboard. Ms . Moulison stated that it will be from the front to the rear of .the house and • have a slope for drainage. Mr. Slam asked if it will be like a curb. Mr. Oedel replied in the affirmative. Ms . Moulison stated that it will be 6" from the house. Ms . Guy stated that it could be approved under a Certificate of Non-Applicability because it is essentially at grade level . Mr. Cook motioned to change the application to a Certificate of Non-Applicability and to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Ms . Moulison stated that there is a need to repair the baseboards . Mr. Slam motioned for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of baseboards providing the replacements match the existing in height, thickness, material and color. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 7 Carpenter Street Newhall Manor Nursing Home applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of two handicap accessible signs, one located at the front entry along Carpenter Street and a . second located at the rear entry. The facility has been cited by the Department of Health and Human Services regarding non- compliance with Federal UFAS regulations . Scale drawings, paint • August 21, 1991, Page 4 chips and sample of work and material proposed were submitted. John Ciccariello, the architect for the project was present. Mr. Ciccariello stated that they have to provide a sign in the front showing handicap access in the rear and a sign in the rear indicating the handicap access location. The signs will be 12" wide by 18" high and will state "physically handicapped access in rear" and "physically handicapped access" . Mr. Ciccariello stated that he preferred the sign be mounted on a post but that it could be put on the building. Mr. Slam stated that he preferred a post and suggest that it be installed to the right of the stairs facing straight out on a single post. Mr. Stanton stated that the sign should be on a true post and not a metal angular post. Chairman Harris stated that she felt that a metal post would be alright. Mr. Ciccariello stated that the lettering would be white and blue. Mr. Slam motioned to modify the Certificate of Appropriateness to a Certificate of Hardship and to approve a 12" by 18" sign for • handicapped accessibility on free standing square metal posts to be located to the right of the front entryway (when looking at house) with sign facing out and a twelve by eighteen inch sign for handicapped accessibility on free standing square metal post to be located in the rear of the' building between the 48" diameter tree and the 4" wide walk as shown on plan previously approved. Both signs to have white and blue lettering. Mr.. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 180 Derby Street Brookhouse Home for Aged Women applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the retention of the vestibule permanently all year long. Mr. Ralph Hobbs was present at the meeting and stated that there is a need for weather protection and that the doors have been there since 1811, the water from the weather comes in and the floor becomes slippery and women are almost falling down when they come off of the stairs . Weather stripping cannot be used because then the door becomes too heavy for the women to open and the vestibule needs to be kept to solve the problem. In 1979 the commission approved the vestibule providing it was removed every summer but they have never been taken down because it too costly to keep taking down. • Mr. Oedel stated that the front door is one of the best doors in Salem. • August 21, 1991, Page 5 Chairman Harris stated that you could argue that the vestibule preserves the door better. Mr. Hobbs stated that it also provides security. Chairman Harris stated that it could be approved providing it is only for the Brookhouse and not if the building changed hands or use. Mr. Oedel felt that they should provide a reasonable time that it should come off even if only one summer every four years . Mr. Cook motioned to approve the Certificate of Hardship as long as the Brookhouse stays the owner, the use stays as is and that interior door or anything covered by the vestibule is not changed. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. Mr. Oedel stated that he feels that the only reason it was allowed ten to twelve years ago was conditional that it would come off every summer and does not want it to become a permanent part of the building. • Mr. Stanton suggested that Brookhouse show evidence of financial hardship. Mr. Hobbs stated that it will cost $300 . 00 each time the vestibule is put up or taken down divided by the thirty-four women which will result in the rent having to be raised. Mr. Hobbs stated that the Brookhouse is a non-profit home. Chairman Harris suggested review in four years . Mr. Cook did not feel there should be a time limit. Mr. Stanton withdrew his second. Mr. Stanton motioned for a Certificate of Hardship for the retention of the vestibule as installed all year long, annually, conditional that there are no changes made to the door and other architectural features that the vestibule covers with the certificate expiring in 4 years, or when the Brookhouse Home transfers ownership or shares or changes its current use, whichever comes first. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. Chairman Harris and Messrs . Stanton, Slam and Oedel voted in favor. Mr. Cook voted in opposition. The motion so carried. 95-97 Federal Street Herbert/Hugill/Luyben/Small applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness and Certificate of Non-Applicability for the . repainting of body and trim in existing color and approved by the historical commission in 1984 and substitute green accent color with blue. Both the green and blue accent colors were approved in . August 21, 1991, Page 6 1984 . Paint chips were submitted. Mr. Thomas Hugill, one of the owners, stated that the green fades out and the new color will weather better. Mr. Slam motioned to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for the change of the accent color from existing green to blue, Navy Plum, as per sample submitted, and a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the repainting of trim of exterior of building in existing colors and the repainting of the body of the house. Non- Applicability due to being an in-kind replacement. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. 136 Federal Street Clifford T. Hughes applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the painting of shutters, windowsash, and doors in existing black and trim and body in existing white colors . Chairman Harris stated that the sash is white not black and the fence should be added. Mr. Slam motioned to approve the application as submitted with the exception that the window sashes are to be repainted white and the • fence to be repainted black. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Rear 160 Boston Street Maryellen Buckley and Peter Copelas applied for a Waiver of Demolition Delay Ordinance for the demolition of two lumber storage sheds at Rear 160 Boston Street. Mr. Slam motioned to approve the Waiver of Demolition Ordinance. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. 109 Derby Street Anna C. Browne applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the repair of an existing side porch. Repairs consist of 1 . replacement of corner post - reshingle and paint post and porch in existing colors; 2 . attach to existing joists, under the porch landing, .two additional joists for support; and 3 . replace , two stair stringers, and reattach original set of stairs . Stair stringer located underneath set of stairs attached to poich. Mr. Oedel motioned to accept the application for the repair of existing side porch as submitted with no change in material, color • or design. Non-Applicable being an in-kind replacement. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • August 21, 1991, Page 7 160 Federal Street Chairman Harris stated that would like to have their recent certificate amended for the sign at the Federal Street School to change color of globe to a blue with black lines . Chairman Harris stated that the original certificate approved green with red lines and the school feels that the globe cannot be seen and would like to have the certificate amended to a blue globe with black lines . Mr. Slam motioned to amend the Certificate to change the color of the globe from green with red lines to blue with black lines . Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Discussion 7 Lynn Street - Mr. Oedel motioned the homeowner be told that the height of the fence post should be lowered so the bottom of the cap is one inch above the level of the pickets and that he should reuse the square beveled cap and ball back but remove the beading. A letter should be sent stating that the Commission has tried to be accommodating, that the homeowner should please cooperate, and that a time limit to complete the work be until the next meeting of • September 11, 1991 . Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 4 Andover Street - Mr. Carr was not present to discuss this issue. It will be put on the next meeting agenda. Other Business Annual Report - Ms . Guy asked if anyone had any changes for the Annual Report. There were no changes . Mr. Stanton presented draft forms for use in filing Clerk' s Certificates of Outstanding Work or Violations at the Registry of Deeds . Ms . Guy stated that recording these should only be used in extreme cases and that she will have the City Solicitor' s office review them and give an opinion. Chairman Harris stated that they will need to have Ms . Guy as the official Clerk of the Commission. Mr. Oedel motioned to appoint Ms . Guy as official Clerk of the Commission. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Stanton stated that there is a possibility of an accusation of • "Slander of Title" (e.g. malicious intention) . Mr. Slam suggested that Ms . Guy draft some type of policy on • August 21, 1991, Page 8 issuing a Clerk' s Certificate that will be uniform for all outstanding work and violations . Mr. Stanton stated that he will talk to Kevin Daly if it is needed. Preservation Plan Ms . Guy stated that each member had been given a copy of the final draft Preservation Plan and asked for any comments . Mr. Oedel made the following comments regarding the preservation plan: Page 22 - 2c - expenses - reimbursement or in budget? - take out "consider" and "making" to "make" . Page 28- D - project impact - should not be non-binding - consider new ordinance? 32 -3b - check if cross streets are in National Register district already. 36 - a - change "educate" to "work with" . 36 - d - make stronger (eg. reduce overall height of B-5 zone) . • Feel sign permits should move up in prioritized list. 41 - a - annual or regular basis 50 - press coverage should be high in priority. 56 - f - clarify 61 - Should state size of staffs of other communities and provide in comparable ratios of properties vs . staff . There being no further business, Mr. Slam motioned to adjourn. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Deborah A. Guy JG\JG\092191 • • September 11, 1991, Page SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES September 11, 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, September 11, 1991 at 7 : 30 P.M. at One . Salem Green, Salem, MA. In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Slam, Mr. Cook, Mr. Carr and Ms . Guy. Mr. Stanton entered later on in the meeting. 131 Federal Street In continuation from a previous meeting, Susan G. L. Glovsky applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a flat skylight on the flat portion of the roof at 131 Federal Street above the back staircase. Ms . Guy stated that Chairman Harris and Messrs . Carr, Slam and Stanton had informed her that the skylight is non-visible or minimally visible, at best. Mr. Carr motioned to approve a Certificate of Non-Applicability. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • Ms . Glovsky withdrew the Certificate of Appropriateness . 155-157 Federal Street Martha Jarnis/Ra mond Buso and Shelby Hypes applied for a Y Y YP PP Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of aluminum siding, clapboard repair and replacement as needed, preparation for painting, repair or replacement of a rear kitchen windows, and painting. The clapboard repair will be on the 155 Federal Street side but both sides will be painted. Two options for painting were submitted. Ms . Hypes stated that the sash and the muttons are black and will probably be repainted. Mr. Siam asked if they would paint the whole house in the same color scheme. Ms . Hypes replied in the affirmative. Mr. Cook motioned to approve the application as submitted. Ms . Slam stated that he preferred Option #1 . Mr. Cook amended his motion to approve Option #1 or Option #2 as presented 9/11/91 with a strong preference for option #1 . Muntins and sash to remain black. Both sides of house to have same color scheme. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Ms . Hypes stated that they may want to pick out the details over the door and she will resubmit with plan if the decide they want to. • 2 136 Federal Street Clifford T. Hughes applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the repair of the back staircase at 136 Federal Street. The stairs have already been completed. Mr. Hughes stated that the stairs were modeled after the Bertram Home. Chairman Harris stated that she had an issue with the size of the bollards . She also stated that walkway disappears underneath the stairs . Mr. Hughes stated that walk is more of a landscaping issue. Mr. Cook stated that he wants to see larger finials on the rail . Mr. Carr motioned to change the application from Hardship to Appropriateness and to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for the repair of the back staircase as completed contingent that finials be changed to approximately twice the existing size which would approximate the size of-the finials at the Bertram Home. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Mr. Stanton entered into the meeting. • 27 North Street Maryann Pantelakis, representing Ambrosia Realty Trust, applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a sign to be made of hardwood for 27 North Street. Drawings were submitted. Ms . Pantelakis stated that the sign will 1 3/4" thick attached with lag bolts through the face of the sign into the building. It will be hung to the right of the doorway flush against the building. Ms . Pantelakis stated the Signworks suggested that a 12" x 18" x 3/4" wide sign be put on the front with an arrow pointing to the doorway. Mr. Slam stated that the commission can approve the front sign but a drawing is needed for any other sign. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of the sign as submitted to be 1 3/4" thick . attached with lag bolts through face of sign into building. Ms . Pantelakis stated that they need to add "George Duffy" to the sign. Mr. Carr amended his motion to have three names as submitted plus "George Duffy" , conditional that the addition of new names must be applied for and that the sign is flush on the wall . To be located on the left side wall to the right of the door approximately eye level from grade, approximately centered from door to corner of building. Details as per submitted drawing. No other signage has � • 3 been approved at this time. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 17 North Street The Salem Lodge. of Elks applied for a Certificate of Hardship for the replacement of window due to fire and the installation of a handicap ramp at 17 North Street. Drawings of the ramp were provided. Representing the Elks were Jim Levesque, Bob Quadros, architect David Jacquith and contractor Dan Tremblay. Chairman Harris stated that the Elks were entitled to repair the building in kind because of a recent fire. Chairman Harris asked if the windows had been changed. Mr. Jacquith stated that some of the windows are vinyl . Mr. Jacquith stated that insurance on the building did not leave enough money and that some of the windows were wood and some were plexiglass while others were boarded up. Mr. Jacquith stated that there will bollards to protect the rail but no screening. • Mr. Slam stated that he had no problem with the ramp but would like it more dressed up. Mr. Carr stated that he has a problem with the rail and the ramp location. Mr. Carr felt the ramp should be in the rear and added that the Elks may be able to get a waiver of the building code requirement for the ramp. Mr. Jaquith noted that he cannot redesign the toilets . Mr. Cook motioned to accept the ramp application as submitted. Mr. Slam stated that it seems like the ramp has to be located there but that would he like a better rail and maybe some screening. Mr. Carr seconded the motion in the hopes that it fails . Mr. Stanton and Mr. Cook voted in favor. Mr. Slam, Mr. Carr, and Chairman Harris voted in opposition. The motion did not carry. Mr. Quadros stated that he feels that they have an extreme situation and that a wooden rail would get damaged due to closeness to the public way. Mr. Slam stated that he feels that the Elks should resubmit the application with the railing. Chairman Harris stated that there are a variety of things that can be done to stop the cars from going into the ramp such as bollards, • 4 fencing, landscaping, etc. Chairman Harris asked if they were also reclapboarding. Mr. Levesque stated that the reclapboarding started years ago and they have not finished and that the work had been applied for and approved. Mr. Carr stated that if they are not finished, they are in violation because the building is only half done and not as approved. Chairman Harris asked they would be doing any other work. Mr. Levesque replied in the negative. Mr. Quadros stated that they are dealing with an organization without a lot of money. Chairman Harris asked if the windows were all done. Mr. Trembley replied in the affirmative. Mr. Stanton stated that he feels there should be dates placed on all approvals of when the work must be completed so that the Commission could determine if clapboards are in violation or in progress . 10 Chestnut Street • Alan T. Howe and Joseph P. Feroce applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the modification of a previously approved plan for a fence to replace an illegally erected stockade fence. The first modification is to reduce the height of the fence to five feet and the height of the columns to six feet. The second modification is to add of a fourth post and the addition of small gate. Fence cap to be 1 ' x 3" railing with a three inch beaded molding. Plans and drawings were submitted. Mr. Cook exempted himself from discussion of this application due to a Conflict of Interest. Ms . Guy stated that Mr. Donahue, abutter, called her and stated that he objects to the fence based on his past letter regarding abutting the fence to his property. Mr. Carr stated that he was afraid that it would look too contemporary and felt that Mr. Howe may want a higher fence due to the length. Mr. Slam stated that he does not necessarily agree that the height of the fence makes it look to contemporary and motioned to approve the application as submitted but stated that if there are not sufficient votes to pass, he is willing to approve the fence at the original height. There was no second. Mr. Carr stated that usually a five foot fence has no posts and that 6 ' fences usually have 6 ' posts . • 5 Chairman Harris stated that she does not feel that strongly about the height but would prefer the new gate be made of wood. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the alteration of the previously approved fence as follows : Approval of gate as submitted on drawing dated as submitted 9/11/91 to be wood, to match fence with a height of six feet. Height of fence to be equal to iron fence atop wall with post to be located as per drawing submitted 9/11/91 . Height and dimensions of posts to remain as approved on previous plan approved 6/7/90 . Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Cook abstained from voting. Chairman Harris asked about painting at 331 Essex Street. Mr. Cook stated that the priming will be done in the fall . Chairman Harris asked about the fanlight. Mr. Howe stated that he needs to complete clapboards first and that he will be 'applying for door trim. 11 River Street Ann H. Knight applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness to tear down and rebuild the back outside staircase to the second floor. The porch area outside the second floor will be 5 x 9 ' with 3 ' • high railing of vertical square bannisters . The stairs will be narrower than the present ones with a railing and bannisters on two sides instead of one. Stairs will be set away from the house approximately 12" to allow for more light into the downstairs and to end snow buildup. Posts will be 4 x 4 capped by a slightly taped cap, not finials, to match the front fence. Railings will be true stair railings, curved and truned, not simply a 2 x 4 as now. Porch flooring will be 1 x 4 mahogany decking. The back door will be replaced with a wood door with full length glass of 3 over 12 lights, custom made with a either a wooden or aluminum storm door painted to match the house. The door size is 27 1/2 wide by 73" . The door will be placed in the same door opening. Ms . Knight stated that the deck will go to the end of the house and be eight inches wider. Stairs will not but up against the house as currently. Mr. Carr questioned if the application should a Certificate of Appropriateness . Mr. Slam stated that he felt that the application should be a Certificate of Appropriateness since it is an upgrade. Mr. Cook stated that he has never seen this door design before. Chairman Harris asked if the ballasters would be closer together. Ms . Knight replied in the affirmative stated that they would be to code. Mr. Carr stated that he felt that she may need a variance since it • 6 is an enlargement and that he has a problem with bringing it out from the house .because it would emphasize that it is an exterior stair. Mr. Cook motioned to approve the application as submitted. Chairman Harris noted that there are to be 10 lights in the door according to the drawing submitted. Mr. Cook stated that he was opposed to moving out the stairs and adding a second rail . Mr. Cook amended his motion to read that the staircase is not to be moved away from the house and it is to continue to abut the house as it currently does . Mr. Slam stated that he has a problem with the details on the railing, ballasters and the top rail . Mr. Cook amended his motion railing to be equivalent to that approved for 7 Carpenter Street handicapped ramp with no second rail to be added contingent that any other necessary approvals from, any other City boards be obtained. Step width to be same as existing or narrower. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • 7 Carpenter Street Newhall Manor Nursing Home applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for final approval of a handrail design for previously approved handicap ramp. Railing drawings and sample were submitted. The architect, John Ciccariello was present. Mr. Stanton asked if the rail inclines or is straight across with the ramp. Mr. Ciccariello stated that it will incline and run with the ramp. Mr. Slam made a motion to approve the railing as submitted. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Ciccariello stated he would like the rails and posts to be painted white and the ballasters and pipe rail to be painted black. Chairman Harris stated that she preferred the ballasters to be . white. Mr. Stanton stated that he preferred the pipe rail to be painted white. Mr. Ciccariello stated that white would get messed up. Mr. Carr motioned for the pipe rails to be black and the remaining wood rail to be painted white, floor deck to be painted battleship grey and lattice to be painted black. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • 7 17 River Street William Larson & Barbara Brandt presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for two options of paint colors . Option one is for all clapboards to be painted barn red (Hearts) and all trim (fascia, window and door trim) to be painted black (Blackwatch) . Option two is for all clapboards to be painted brown (Bark) and all trim ( fascia, window and door trim) to be painted dustry rose (Serene) . Chairman Harris felt that the darker body may be more appropriate and that the red body color is very bright. Mr. Cook made a motion to approve either scheme. There was no second. Mr. Slam felt that the Option 1 should be a darker red and suggested that if the applicant can prove that Option 1 is appropriate to bring it back later. Mr. Carr motioned to continue Option 1 and to approve Option 2 with the brown body and trim on windowsash to be Serene or brown for both the body and trim. The corner posts are to be the same as the • body. The trim is to be just the window sash and trim of door. Door to be continued. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Stanton left the meeting at this time. Armory Redevelopment Discussion Present to discuss the Armory redevelopment were Bill Luster, City Planer, Joe Lynch, hired as the developer for the museums, a gentlement from Hafits and Company Development, Bill O'Leary of Dyer Brown and Leslie Donovan, an historical consultant. A scaled model of the proposed reconstruction of the Armory and plans were presented to the commission. Joe Lynch stated that the purpose for the discussion was to hear the overall comments of the commission even though the armory is not in the historical district, to obtain a waiver of the demolition delay ordinance. Mr. Lynch reviewed the plans for the Commission. The National Park Services will occupy 12, 000 s . f. of the drill shed portion. Mr. O'Leary stated that a pedestrian one story walkway between the head house and the drill shed will be maintained and the roof line will stay the same on the drill shed. Mr. O'Leary stated that the feasibility of saving walls of the head house is problematic due to interior brick being exposed to the weather for the past ten years . Mr. O'Leary stated that they plan to keep Essex Street facade and • 8 turrets . Mr. Luster stated that they need a waiver of demolition delay ordinance and that they wants to take the support of the board to Massachusetts Historical Commission which states that the board agrees with the plans in concept. The only demolition will be the boiler room and the two side walls of the headhouse. Mr. Slam motioned to waive the demolition of delay ordinance for the boiler room, two side walls of the head house, the chimney and for the two common walls to be rebuilt. Mr. Carr suggested that the motion be contingent that there must be two replacement side walls of the same height, volume, in the same location and replaced with the same materials . Mr. Slam so amended his motion. Mr. . Carr stated that he feels that the fill in between the armory and Essex Institute makes an exciting street scape. Mr. O'Leary stated that skylights may be installed to get extra • light into the drill shed and provided a view of the trusses . Mr. Carr stated that as being one who usually opposes skylights, this would be an exception. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and so the motion carried. Mr. Carr stated that if there was anyway to -relocate the proposed trees, he would prefer it. Mr. Carr motioned to write a letter to Massachusetts Historical Commission to state that the commission is in wholehearted support of the proposed scheme and that the Commission is comfortable that final design issues can be completed to the Commission' s satisfaction. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. It was noted that the Massachusetts Historical Commission meeting is on Tuesday at 2 : 00 p.m. and that Mr. Carr and Chairman Harris will attend on behalf of the Commission. 18 River Street Deborah and Jeremiah Jennings submitted and application for the construction of a fence at 18 River Street. Mr. Carr stated that they had received signatures from the neighbors of 18 River Street to waive the public hearing since the application was just being submitted. • 9 Mr. Slam stated that he will not vote in favor of waiving the public hearing due to the fact that the work has already been started and not having enough time to review the situation and feels that the application is being shoved in to the commission. Chairman Harris stated that a better fence cap is needed and asked what is being done to the front in picture #1 and what is being done with the concrete block wall . Mr. Carr left the meeting. The application will be placed on the next agenda. Correspondence Review Ms . Guy stated that she received updated plans of the House of Seven Gables and Chairman Harris stated that when she goes' to the meeting at Massachusetts Historical Commission, she will also discuss this issue. Ms . Guy drafted a letter to Dan Pierce but it was agreed to hold off on sending it until the Commission knows for sure if Mr. Pierce will not be returning. • Ms . Guy read a letter to Jack Wolfson being sent from the Commission with regard to the loss of his son. Ms . Guy stated that Dr. Murray is being deposed on September 13, 1991 and Chairman Harris is being deposed on September 16 , 1991 . There being no further business Mr. Cook motioned to adjourn. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, Allam ,-V Deborah A. Guy JG\JG\091191 • October 2, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES OCTOBER 2, 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, October 2 , 1991 at 7 : 30 p.m. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. Present were Chairman Harris and Messrs . Stanton, Oedel, Carr and Slam and Ms . Guy. Mr. Cook entered later in the meeting. 84 Federal Street John & Mary Wathne presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the replacement of the rear door to the basement area with either M-3984 or M-1248 at their home at 84 Federal Street. The door is currently a semi-inoperable abandoned door of which an application for steps to will be presented in, the future. A glazed door is requested to allow light into the existing basement. Mr. Wathne stated that the door will be wooden and that he prefers the M-3984 but would like both approved if possible. Mr. Wathne stated that the entrance is below grade on Federal Street and above grade on Bridge Street. They will re-use the same hardware of the • existing 5 panel door. Mr. Slam made a motion to approve the application for both doors due to minimum visibility and the doors not being inappropriate. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. Mr. Carr preferred that the application be amended to Non- applicability. Mr. Wathne stated that he will save the old door to reuse in the future. ' Mr. Slam amended his motion to change the application to an application for a Certificate of Non-applicability and to approve the door due to its minimum visibility. Mr. Stanton seconded the amendment. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Cook entered at this time. 17 River Street In continuation from a previous meeting, Mr. William Larson was present for his application for paint colors at his home at 17 River Street. At the last meeting, Option 2 paint colors were approved. • Mr. Larson withdrew Option 1 paint colors and presented a paint chip for the painting of the 2 doors . Mr. Carr stated that the • October 2 , 1991, Page 2 back door is not visible. Mr. Carr stated that the front door is a beautiful reproduction, studded door with diamond. Mr. Slam made a motion to approve the application as submitted. ` Mr. Carr seconded the motion. Mr. Larson stated that some clapboards and trim are rotted and need repair. Most of the work is needed from the ground up to the left side of the front door. Mr. Oedel questioned if the door color was inappropriate. Mr. Larson stated that he wanted to get away from wood tone colors and wanted to make the house less plain by adding a little color. The motion was voted upon. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr made a motion to approve a Certificate of Non- applicability to repair clapboards as necessary on the wall where the front door is . The rose headed nails are to be re-used. The amount of clapboarding must not exceed 25% of that wall . Clapboards must match existing, smooth side to weather. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. • 17 North Street The Salem Lodge of Elks presented an application for a Certificate of Hardship for the construction of a handicap ramp to serve the first floor meeting hall as required by State and local codes at 17 North Street. David Jaquith, the architect, presented drawings which included a fence to screen the ramp. Mr. Jaquith stated that the ramp has the same footprint as previously applied for. Chairman Harris felt it was a terrific solution. Mr. Oedel was in agreement. Chairman Harris asked if car stops could be put in to protect the fence. Mr. Jaquith stated that it was tight, but might be possible. There will be one new bollard and 2 bollards will be relocated. Mr. Slam asked if the ramp rail will be seen at all . Mr. Jaquith stated that it can only be seen if one where to go around back. Mr. Jaquith stated that the fence will be painted the body color of the building. Mr. Slam asked if the fence is flatboard. Mr. Jaquith replied in • the negative and stated that it will have straight ballasters . Mr. Carr made a motion to approve the Certificate of Hardship as • October 2, 1991, Page 3 submitted. Mr. Slam felt the certificate should be under Appropriateness . Mr. Oedel was in agreement. Mr. Stanton felt that Hardship was the appropriate vehicle. Ms . Guy was in agreement. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. Councillor Leonard O'Leary spoke in favor of the application and stated that the Elks Club is in financially straights . The motion was voted upon. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 25 Flint Street Eleanor Meadowcroft presented an application for a Certificate of Non-Applicability to remove the existing sunroom roof and reframe using 2 x 8 rafters, replacing 2 x 6 ' s . The room is 16 ' x 9 ' and dates to the late 19th or early 20th century. Ms . Meadowcroft stated that the header is presently 4 x 4 and should be 2 x 6 . • Mr. Oedel made a motion to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. One Broad Street The Trustees of One Broad Street Condo Trust applied for a Certificate of Non-applicability to repaint the trim on two sides of One Broad Street by 12/31/91, repair and replace necessary trim and molding on the same two sides by 12/31/91, repaint the trim on the remaining two sides by 12/31/93, repair and replace necessary trim and molding on the same two sides by 12/31/93 and repaint the bulkhead by 12/31/91 . All paint to be as close as possible to existing: No changes in material or details . Mr. Slam made a motion to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. Mr. Cook and Mr. Stanton abstained from voting. All were in favor and the motion so carried. House of Seven Gables John Serafini, Edith Harmon and Brett Donham were present to discuss design development at the House of Seven Gables . Recent drawings were presented. There was no application to act upon. • Ms . Harmon stated that the existing visitor' s center was built when they had approximately 50, 000 visitors per year and that they now • October 2, 1991, Page 4 have approximately 150,000 visitors a year as well as approximately 20, 000 school children in school groups each year. Ms . Harmon described the accommodation needs and programatic needs for the educational component of the facility. Mr. Harmon stated that there are waiting lines to tour the House of Seven Gables and that accommodations are needed for these groups in inclement weather and during the off season. Mr. Carr felt there will always be a bottleneck at the House of Seven Gables due to the limited size of tour groups it can accommodate. Mr. Carr stated that the Commission can only consider the physical aspects of the plan. Mr. Carr stated that the principal issue is that the proposed building is far larger than any other on the site along with its close proximity to the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Serafini stated that 117 Derby Street is not going to be purchased by the Gables . Mr. Donham stated that the former Turner Hall was taller than the building they are proposing. Mr. Donham stated that they will no longer have a second floor and most of the functions have now been put in the basement. Mr. Donham stated that the front entrance was • scaled down and that wood posts have been put in. The amount of glass was reduced from the garden elevation. Mr. Donham felt that the chimneys looked better outside the wall because it leaves it less naked since they do not want windows . Mr. Donham stated that Mr. Paul Holtz of Massachusetts Historical Commission has suggested that they change the metal roof with standing seams every two feet to wood shingles or manufactured slates in order to scale down the look of the roof . Mr. Donham stated that he is looking into the manufactured slates . Mr. Holtz had also recommended that 2 or 3 dormers be included in order to add some small scale elements . Chairman Harris asked why there is so much height to the roof . Mr. Donham stated that it is used for mechanical items such as air conditioning. Chairman Harris felt that it becomes the same height as the nearby 3 story house. Mr. Oedel asked where the vents would be. Mr. Donham stated that some are set in window frames with cross mullions and also showed other locations on the plans . Mr. Carr felt the changes were improvements but felt there needs to be less building. Chairman Harris felt the east elevation gives the image of a barn. Mr. Cook stated he got the feeling of a schoolhouse university and 40 wondered how it would have been designed if there wasn't as much open space available Mr. Cook stated that he got the feeling of • October 2 , 1991, Page 5 a decided amount of mass . Mr. Oedel felt the design was good work but suggested that more be placed underground. Mr. Oedel felt that though it would cost more, it would have less impact on the surrounding. Mr. Oedel was concerned that the view from Derby Street would change significantly. Mr. Stanton complemented Mr. Donham on the design and stated that he felt the view from the street would have a crowded commercial look. Mr. Slam agreed with the members on the scale and questioned how the programmatic needs were addressed. Mr. Carr stated that even though they have broken up the roof lines, the building still dominates the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Carr was especially concerned with the Turner Street view. Mr. Serafini asked why the members felt the Gables has been working on the design for the last two years . Mr. Serafini stated that they have a mission and that the design should not be looked at as though for the benefit of only a few people. • Mr. Carr felt the House of Seven Gables is probably the most important building in Salem and that care must be taken on how the new building is designed. Mr. Slam noted that Ms . Harmon had once stated that some people confuse surrounding buildings as the House of Seven Gables and questioned if the new building would also cause confusion. Chairman Harris stated that she did not feel it was hopeless . Chairman Harris asked, if and when the 117 Derby parcel was acquired by the Gables, how would it be included in the design. Chairman Harris felt that the more the Gables property looks like a village, the better. Chairman Harris stated that they could try to utilize the second floors and reduce the footprint or cut the roof amount. Chairman Harris felt that parts of the design were too countryfied for the real echo of Salem. Chairman Harris felt the visitor center. will dominate a very pleasant site. Mr. Carr felt that in the 17th century, Salem was a village and that they should not create an urban area. Chairman Harris stated that details on the entrance from the street . were needed including fencing, landscaping, etc. Mr. Carr suggested that the visitor center be moved out from the House of Seven Gables . • October 2, 1991, Page 6 Mr. Oedel asked if the large classrooms be taken off the site. Mr. Donham stated that it would be too costly in terms of staffing. Mr. Carr asked if Emmerton Hall was fully utilized. Ms . Harmon replied in the affirmative and stated that since they have daycare, they cannot open it up to the public. Chairman Harris asked if the Commission members would be receptive toward the visitor center being broken into separate buildings . Mr. Oedel stated that he did not feel the footprint was as problematic as the massing from Turner Street. Mr. Oedel stated that he would be less concerned if it read as different buildings . Mr. Slam asked if it could be moved somewhere else on the site without sitting on top of the House of Seven Gables . Chairman Harris stated that the consensus is that the further from the House of Seven Gables, the better. Mr. Slam and Mr. Carr were in agreement. Mr. Carr stated that the more it is moved away, scaled down and balanced, the better. • Mr. Slam stated he would be less worried about the scale if it were moved further away. Mr. Cook was in agreement. Mr. Cook stated that they need to preserve the public view from the streetscape without dwarfing and that the ambiance should be preserved. Mr. Serafini stated that some disruption has to occur or nothing will ever be built or changed. Mr. .Donham stated that they are reducing the amount of parking lot and that the main focus is the garden. Mr. Donham felt that the design will keep the ambiance of the garden. Bertram Home Clifford Hughes and Staley McDermott were present to address the punch list sent regarding the Bertram Home at 29 Washington Square North. Mr. Carr stated that he met with Mass . Electric and agreed that the location of the transformer was best located where installed. Mr. Carr stated that the ,low fence does not screen the transformer adequately and felt the fence original to the site was higher. Mr. • Carr suggested that the fence height be increased to the right of the post in order to effectively screen the transformer. 'i October 2, 1991, Page 7 Mr. McDermott felt creating a huge wall would hide the view from the residents . Mr. Hughes stated that the higher fence would decrease visibility for the van pulling out. Mr. McDermott felt the wall will attract the eye. Chairman Harris was concerned with the look of not . only the transformer but all the fencing around it. Mr. Slam stated that he noticed the fences before he noticed the transformer. Chairman Harris suggested a site visit in order to consider solutions. Mr. Oedel stated that they may be able to increase the fence height or change the interior or some combination. Mr. Oedel stated that was is .there now looks horrible. Mr. Carr stated that he would have liked the illusion of the original gates by putting in gates that don't have to close. Mr. McDermott stated that he didn't notice that the fence didn' t abut the granite post for a month and figured no one else would. • Mr. McDermott stated that they found the exposed aggregate concrete is too slippery. Mr. Carr stated that the brick on the new building was pretty good compared to the old but that the brick on the laundry room wall was bad in every respect - size, mortar, coursing, etc . Mr. McDermott stated that the workers did okay one third of the way up in keeping the joints small, but that they lost it further up because the courses were starting to bulge. Mr. Carr asked if the chiller enclosure will be painted. Mr. Hughes replied in the affirmative. Mr. McDermott provided a sketch of the chiller enclosure. Mr. Carr stated that the galvanized vent (turbin) on the roof behind the ballastrade needs to be painted along with the soil stack, etc. Mr. Carr asked if the downspout was previously there. Mr. McDermott replied in the affirmative and suggested that the downspouts be removed entirely to see what happens . Mr. McDermott stated that there may be an unacceptable amount of water coming down. Mr. Carr suggested a trial period. Chairman Harris stated that Mr. McDermott should take a photograph of the existing condition prior to removing the downspouts . Mr. Carr felt the gooseneck lamp looks terrific but it was never October 2 , 1991, Page 8 approved. A site visit has been scheduled for Wednesday, October 16 , 1991 at 6 : 00 p.m. 18 River Street Jeremiah and Deborah Jennings presented an application to construct a solid wood perimeter fence at the rear of the property at 18 River Street. Sketches were enclosed along with photos showing the work which has already commenced. The applicants were not present. Mr. Carr stated that the owner could not come in due to the babysitter canceling but that they are willing to do whatever the Commission requests . Mr. Carr stated that the owners will apply later for treatment to the concrete wall to either install trellis with ivy, brick the wall or apply stone facing. Mr. Oedel made a motion to approve the application as submitted with the post cap and fence cap as drawn on the yellow sketch dated 10/2/91 . Additional fencing to be constructed across the end of • the driveway which will tie in the already constructed fence to the house (top rail must be horizontal - even with where the side fence meets the same post) . Applicant to come back on fence color and treatment of concrete block retaining wall on Lynn Street side. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Other Business 393 Essex Street - Chairman Harris stated that the owner of 393 Essex Street has taken down all the trees and paved the entire property and asked if there was anything the Commission could do. Mr. Carr offered to talk to Don Koleman and look into zoning, etc . Mass . Electric letter - Mr. Carr stated that he would like to amend the draft letter and would like to schedule a time with Chairman Harris and Mr. Oedel to meet with him. Mr. Carr stated that Mr. Tuttle requested some additions to the letter. Mass . Historical Commission (MHC) letter - Mr. Carr felt the letter was terrific but cautioned that the Commission did not want to make the point that the seven members were the only qualified people in Salem. Mr. Carr suggested that the letter state the Commission does not want to loose any of its existing members . Ms . Guy will mail the letter. Violations/Outstanding Work policy - Mr. Carr and Ms . Guy felt this should be discussed further. Mr. Oedel suggested it be put first October 2 , 1991, Page 9 • on the next agenda. Salem/Beverly Transportation Project - Ms . Guy stated that she never received copies of the final archaeological report or the reply letter from MDPW/FHWA to Mass . Historic. Ms . Guy stated that when she asked Anne Booth at the MDPW for copies, she was told that she was not allowed to release them and that the MDPW felt it would be problematic if MHC were requested to send copies . Ms . Guy stated that she would like to request these copies from MHC on behalf of the Commission as interested parties . The Commission members were in agreement. 7 Lynn St. - Ms . Guy read a letter from the owner stating that he will comply with the decision of the Commission and complete the work by 10/2/91 . Ms . Guy asked if she should send the letter to Mr. Pierce thanking him for his service. Mr. Carr suggested that it wait until it is confirmed that he will not be coming back. Ms . Guy passed out a brochure on an upcoming workshop sponsored by Historic Mass . , Inc . and suggested that some members go in order to meet the CLG requirements . Ms . Guy stated that attending workshops was a recommendation of the Preservation Master Plan that everyone agreed was important. Ms . Guy stated that while she usually attends these • workshops in order to satisfy the CLG requirements, she may not be able to attend this one, or if attended, would have to leave early. Violations/Work Status 4 Andover St. (Carons, reclapboarding) - Mr. Carr will talk to the owners . Deborah Whitmore - Federal Street (after Hedstrom' s, across from Glovsky' s) - fence installed - Ms . Guy to send letter. Ms . Guy stated that several properties were not given completion dates (e.g. 10 Chestnut and 51 Summer) . Chairman Harris suggested that a letter be sent to all homeowners with outstanding work requesting a status . Mr. Oedel suggested the owner of 51 Summer be asked to come to thenext meeting to provide a status . There being no further business, Mr. Carr made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully sbmitted, Je A. Guy C rk of the Commission i JG\JG\100291 r SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION • MINUTES OCTOBER 30, 1991 A meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, October 30, 1991 at 7 : 30 p.m. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. Present were Messrs . Carr, Oedel, Slam, Stanton and Hedstrom. Mr. Slam chaired the meeting. 7 River Street John and Carol Carr presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to rebuild the front fence on the sidewalk as existing, to repair the rear roof facia board as existing and to paint their home at 7 River Street. The applicants propose to paint the body and trim colors the same as 24 Andrew Street or as 122 Federal Street. Photographs were presented of the two proposed painting schemes . Also presented was a list of abutters signatures in approval of either paint scheme. The applicants requested that the public hearing be waived. Mr. Hedstrom made a motion to waive the public hearing and to approve the application as submitted with the option of either paint scheme. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor • and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. There being no further business Mr. Hedstrom made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, Roger Hedstrom/Kevin St nton JG\JG\103091 • r November 6, 1991, Page 1 4 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 6 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, November 6 , 1991 at 7 : 30 PM at One Salem Green, Salem Massachusetts . In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Slam, Mr. Carr, Mr. Cook, Mr. Stanton and Ms . Guy. 40 Broad Street Marie T. Lessor applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the reconstruction of the front entrance including the replacement of the front door in wood, painting of pillars and trellis in white and repainting the front door in its previously existing color Shadow Blue. The applic tion is also for the reconstruction of the side entrance including eplacement of wood door to be painted in Shadow Blue, and paintinj the porch rails white. There will be no change to size or shape to either entrances . The application is also to reglaze and then epaint all windows white. An application for a Certificate of Hardship was also submitted to paint the pillars. and trellis of the front entrance white and to paint the • porch rails of the side antrance white. Pictures were shown. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Slam asked if the porch and door were going to be replaced to be the same as they are now. Ms . Lessor replied in the affirmative. Mr. Carr seconded the mo ion. Ms . Lessor stated that she would like lattice on the side entrance. Mr. Carr stated that h preferred slats to lattice. Mr. Slam suggested approving both lattice and slats . Mr. Carr so amended his motion. Mr. Cook seconded the amendment. Chairman Harris asked ifthe applicant was replacing the columns in the front. Ms . Lessor riplied in the affirmative. Mr: Carr amended his motion to approve that application as submitted for the reconstruction of the front entrance and side entrance to match existing conditional_ that the new round, wood columns replicate existing columns . Slats at side entrance to remain as existing. Replace front door with Brosco M-100, and replace side door with Brosco M-107 . Both doors to be painted Shadow Blue. Pillars, trellis and porch rails to be painted white. Reglaze and repaint all windows white. No change in materials or design of any details with the exception of the change in doors . November 6 , 1991, Page 2 Mr. Cook seconded the moi ion. All were in favor and the so motion carried. 27 Broad Street Alfred P. Putnam applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a change in storm window color due to the replacement of existing aluminum double storm windows on the first floor of the house. The proposal is to replace four storm windows with Harvey Tru-Channel aluminum storm windows to be painted white. The color of the present storms are unpainted aluminum. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for change of color of the storm windows from aluminum (unpainted) to white for the first floor windows at 27 Broad Street. Chairman Harris asked in it will be just the windows in the front of the house. Mr. Putnam replied in affirmative. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the so motion carried. 34 Chestnut Street • The Trustees of the Stephen Phillips Memorial Charitable Trust applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of decayed wooden gutters on the front of the Carriage House and replace with copper gut ers to be painted white to match trim. Gutters on the main house are all copper and are painted to match trim. Mr. Carr motioned to app ove the application as submitted for the replacement of wooden gutters on the front of the Carriage House with copper gutters to be painted white. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. The Trustees of the Stephen Phillips Memorial Charitable Trust also applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for gutter and roof .work on the side porch a#. 34 Chestnut Street. Work to be in kind. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for Non-Applicability for in-kind gutter and roof work on the side porch. Non-Applicable due to being an in-kindl replacement with no change in material, color or details . Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 120 Federal Street D. A. Lebovici and M. Twohey applied for a Certificate of • Appropriateness for the replacement of the fence between 120 and 116/118 Federal Street. Current fence is an unpainted four foot November 6, 1991, Page 3 • stockade fence which rises to five a five foot stockade in the rear. The proposal is to replace the four foot stockade section with a four foot and a dive foot unpainted picket fence with cap rail, as shown in the submitted drawings, and to replace with like kind the section of fence which has limited visibility from both Federal and Andover Streets . The fence will rise from four to five feet where the fence gate separates front and rear gardens of 120 Federal Street. Objectlive of raising the fence is to provide privacy in the garden between 120 and 118 Federal Street side garden seating areas which are quite close to each other. Where large bush on 120 Federal Street side and shed on 116/118 Federal Street side screen fence from Federal and Andover, Streets, replace existing stockade with Ilike kind to blend with the existing stockade at rear of both properties which is not being replaced and which is in fine condition. Mr. Slam questioned iflwhen one portion is being changed and another is replaced in kind, would the inkind portion be considered under a Certificate of Nin-Applicability. Mr. Carr stated that he would like to see the fence painted. Ms . Twohey stated that the fence is unpainted now and the surrounding fence is not painted either and they thought it would look better . unpainted. Mr. Lebovicil stated that if the fence was painted it would look funny and felt leaving it unpainted will help it fade in with all the other fencing around. Mr. Carr felt historically the fence would be painted. Mr. Slam stated that he agrees with Mr. Carr. Chairman Harris stated that she feels that the front section of the fence should be painted as it is the more formal section. Mr.. Lebovici stated that the variations in the fence will show more with paint. Mr. Cook felt that the shrubbery makes it look like a natural landscape and it would not blend well if the fence were painted. Mr. Cook felt the shrubbery matches better with an unpainted fence and the !fence will melt into the landscape. Mr. Stanton stated that if the fence is to blend in with nature then he proposes painting the fence green. Mr. Stanton was also concerned with the spacing and asked if the applicants would consider closing the spaces . Mr. Lebovici agreed and stated that the neighbors would like the spaces somewhat closer and that he would to prefer less than one inch spacing. Mr. Stanton asked if the posts would be facing 116/118 Federal Street. Ms . Twohey replied that the posts would face 116/118 Federal Street. I Mr. Carr stated that he feels that by not painting the fence, it will look unfinished. Mr. Cook stated that the fence now melts literally into the landscaping and that he does not find the natural color offensive. ! • Mr. Cook motioned to approve the application as submitted with the 'l i 4 it November 6, 1991, Page 4 modification of closer spacing. There was no second. I Mr. Slam motioned to approve the replacement of the fence between 120 and 116/118 Federal Street as proposed with the amendment that the spacing between the pickets be reduced to 3/4-1" and that the front section of the fence to the jog be painted black/green to match the other fence. Remainder of fencing to remain natural . Mr. Stanton seconded the, motion. Chairman Harris, Mr. Slam, Mr. Stanton, and Mr. Carr voted in favor. Mr. Cook voted in opposed. The motion was so carried. Ms . Twohey asked if theylcan get approval to replace the fence as is . i Mr. Carr motioned to approve a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of the existing fence between 120 116/118 Federal Street with that which replicates it. No change in material, color or design. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 76 Federal Street Gregory J. Gordon applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability • for the replacement of the roof which was damaged in a storm, with same color asphalt but in stronger material . No change in material color or design. Sample's were submitted. Mr. Carr motioned to accept the application as submitted for the replacement of the roof with asphalt in color which replicates the existing charcoal color and with a weight and quality of submitted sample with no changes in color, material or design. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 102 Derby Street Steve Cotty applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of clapboards as necessary on four sides and repainting in Hamilton Blue Benjamin Moore stain at 102 Derby Street. The application is also for the replacement of a door frame on the side, rebuilding of a picket fence as existing, rebuilding of stairs as existing with no changes in color, material or design. The work is to be completed by Spring. Mr. Carr asked if the finished side would be out with the same exposure and everything to be the same as is existing now. Mr. Cotty replied in the affirmative, 'stating that it would be 4" to the weather. Mr. Cook asked if the clapboards would be clear cedar. Mr. Cotty • replied in the affirmative and stated that the clapboards would be stained in existing color Hamilton Blue Benjamin Moore stain. November 6, 1991, Page 5 • Chairman Harris asked if the picket fence will be rebuilt as it was . Mr. Cotty stated that the fence will be repaired as existing but will be constructed more sturdy. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for the replacement of clapboards as necessary provided the finish side be exposed to weather, no more than four inches, and to be painted in existing Hamilton Blue. The motion is also for the replacement of side door framing only, rebuilding the picket fence as existing and rebuilding the stairs as existing with no changes in color, material or design. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 335 Essex Street Robert and Barbara Maier applied for a Certificate of Non- Applicability for the repair or replacement of a porch as existing with a more sturdy structure. Chairman Harris stated that very little of the porch is visible from a public way. Mr. , Carr motioned to acc pt the application for the rebuilding of • the screen porch as existing in all outdoor appearance. Reconstruction to incl de construction of railing on interior stairs . Mr. Slam second d the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 128/130 Federal Street Deborah Wetmore appliedlfor a Certificate of Appropriateness. for the construction of a white painted wooden picket fence to enclose a newly landscaped area in front of 128/.130 Federal Street with the intention of the fence toi protect shrubbery from dogs, to replicate the original fence and to be cost effective. Dimensions of the fence are to be seventeen inches in height with two 3" inch wide straps surrounding two aleas on each side of the front doors . Ms . Guy stated that the applicant could not be here and requested that the application be continued. Chairman Harris stated that she feels that the previous fence was taller and the pickets were not rounded. Mr. Slam motioned to qontinue the application until the next meeting. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 105 Derby Street 40 Joseph J'. Byrne applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for November 6, 1991, Page 6 • repainting at 105 Derby IStreet in existing colors . Mr. Stanton motioned to approve the application for repainting of the house at 105 Derby Street in existing colors . No change to exterior in color, material or design. Non-Applicable due to being an inkind replacement. Mr. Carr seconded the motion, all were in favor and the motion so carried. i 113 Federal Street Richard W. Lindeman applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the replacement of a'lroof in existing materials and color. Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for the replacement of the roof as existing. iNo change in color, material or design. Non-Applicable due to being an inkind replacement. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 6 Chestnut Street Margaret Busteed applied if or a Certificate of Non-Applicability for repainting, at 6 Chestnut Street. The work has already been completed. • The Commission members concluded that the paint color was a change from what was existing. 11 Mr. Carr motioned to amend the application from a certificate of non-applicability to a certificate of appropriateness, to waive the public hearing and to approve the certificate for the change of paint color fromwhat was previously existing to that which was recently painted. Mr. Sham seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. I Outstanding Work/Violations Ms . Guy stated that, as directed by the Commission, letters requesting a status of outstanding work or violations was sent to homeowners : , 40 Derby Street - Mr. Soucy was present to state that the work is completed. 51 Summer Street - Ms . Guy read a letter of response from Mr. Kallenback stating ' that the work will be completed in the Spring. 17 Beckford Street Ms . Guy stated that the owner wrote and indicated that the clapboards on the house are done and will • be painted by the spring time. I I i ',I i November 6 , 1991, Page 7 10 Chestnut Street/,331 Essex Street - Ms . Guy read a letter from Alan Howe. Ms, . Guy stated that in a conversation with Mr. Howe' s brother; it was indicated that the work on 10 Chestnut would be completed within a week. Mr. Carr stated that the properties 'are going up for auction on November 15th. Mr. Slam is to find;, out what bank the first mortgage is with and a letter is to be sent to the bank regarding the outstanding violations . 265 Lafayette Street - Ms . Guy stated that she received no reply. Mr. Carr stated that he wants the matter referred to Kevin Daly for enforcement. 2 Flint Street - Ms .' Guy stated that a letter of violation was sent and there has 'been no reply. Mr. Carr stated he wants the matter sent to Kevin Daly for legal action. 111 Federal Street Mr. Carr stated that he wants a letter sent to the homeowner requesting a status of completing the porch. 271 Lafayette Street - Ms . Guy stated that Kevin Daly has the matter regarding thIe ballasters and that she has not gotten • any feedback from him. 362 Essex Street - Ms . Guy stated that the issue was referred to Kevin Daly and that she has received no feedback. 396 Essex Street - Chairman Harris stated that the property owner has removed landscaping and completed paving and feels that this may be a violation of the Board of Appeals conditions . Ms . Guy will draft a letter. Other Business Ms . Guy asked Mr. Carr about the letter to Massachusetts Electric regarding Lafayette Street. Mr. Carr stated that he will draft the letter within the next couple of weeks . Mr. Carr asked Ms . Guy to call the Bertram Home regarding the list of outstanding issues . i Mr. Stanton stated that he received a letter at his home from a firm trying to sell windows who are representing that their windows are approved by the Salem Historical Commission. Mr. Stanton is concerned about this misleading homeowners into believing they may not have to get approval for replacement. Mr. Stanton will send a copy of the letter to Ms . Guy. • Richard Savickey of 3 Eaton Place called Ms . Guy and stated that he has an application in for the next meeting but would like someone I i I • November 6 , 1991, Page 8 i from the Commission to come by and see what he has done. Correspondence Ms . Guy stated that she received a letter from the Federal Highway Administration to Massachusetts Historical Commission (MHC) regarding the Salem - Beverly Transportation Project, as well as MHC' s response letter, and that she will be sending copies to the members of the commission for their review. Ms . Guy read a letter from MHC to Edith Harman regarding the House of Seven Gables . Ms . Guy read a letter, from MHC to the Executive Office of Environmental Affairs regarding the SESD secondary sewer treatment plant. Ms . Guy read a letter from the neighbors of 80 Derby Street and concluded that the installation of vents may be a violation. Ms . Guy will take pictures . Ms . Guy stated that the owners of 248 Lafayette Street have extended an invitation for the commission to come by the house and see the completed work in the house. • Ms . Guy stated that the ;Murray' s have filed a Motion for Summary Judgment regarding 14 Chestnut Street. Chairman Harris signed a'I', letter to Dan Pierce thanking him for his service on the commission. Minutes Mr. Carr motioned to approve the minutes of 3/6/91, 5/15/91, 6/19/91, 7/10/91, 7/24/91, 8/7/91, 8/21/91, 9/11/91, & 10/2/91 . Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. There being no further business Mr. Cook motioned to adjourn. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully Submitted, Deborah A. Guy JG\JG\110691 • ...;cam • November 20, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES NOVEMBER 20, 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Commission was held on Wednesday, November 20, 1991 at 7 : 30 p.m. at One Salem Green, Salem, MA. Present were Chairman Harris and Messrs . Carr, Casey, Cook, Stanton, Oedel, Hedstrom and Slam and Ms . Guy. Chairman Harris called the meeting to order and welcomed new member John Casey. 128-130 Federal Street In continuation from the last meeting, Deborah Wetmore presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the installation of a wooden fence, painted white to enclose the newly landscaped area in front of 128-130 Federal Street. The fence was already constructed to be similar to that which was present in the early 1940 ' s . The dimensions are 17" high with two 3" wide straps surrounding the two areas on each side of the front doors.. The application stated that proposed fence was cost effective. • Mr. Carr stated that he felt the fence was inappropriate to a Federal house due to its size and style and stated that the Commission received complaints when the fence was being erected. Ms . Wetmore stated that the fence is needed to preserve the landscaping, that she tried to replicate what had been there and that she thought a replacement did not require approval . Ms . Wetmore stated that she could have a Carpenter upgrade it to be more appropriate and that she did not know when the previous fence was last there. Mr. Carr felt that there may have previously been an iron fence there at one time. Ms . Slam stated that "replace" refers to replacing what is existing and not that which was previously removed. Ms . Wetmore stated that she was willing to come back with new drawings . Mr. Slam stated that he could not recall any fence the Commission has approved that was under 3 . to 3 1/2 feet. Mr. Carr felt that Ms . Wetmore has a utilitarian need and that the property requires a more high-style fence, which could be cost • prohibitive. h Ms . Wetmore requested that the fence be allowed to remain until the November 20, 1991, Page 2 Spring in order to allow the plants to get stronger. Ms . Wetmore stated that she would then remove the fence permanently and that, in time, she may be able to put up a more appropriate fence. Ms . Wetmore agreed that the constructed fence is inappropriate. Mr. Slam made a motion to deny the application and to allow the constructed fence to remain until April 1, 1991 . Mr. Stanton felt that allowing an unacceptable structure is creating a precedent and that it could not be argued that this was a temporary structure. Mr. Cook felt that the Commission should not be pressured by anxiety of precedent. Mr. Carr was in agreement with Mr. Stanton. Chairman Harris stated that while they have not approved a fence to keep dogs out, the Commission has approved temporary fencing to keep dogs in. Mr. Oedel stated that the Commission_ has allowed temporary things over the winter to allow contracting to be easier. Mr. Stanton felt that it borders on the arbitrary and that the Commission would have to allow temporary structures for other applicants . Mr. Stanton felt it was safer to deny and proceed with enforcement as necessary at some time in the future. Mr. Cook did not feel it was necessary to go to that extent. • The motion was voted upon. Chairman Harris and Messrs . Hedstrom, Casey, Slam and Cook voted in favor. Messrs . Oedel and Carr voted in opposition. Mr. Stanton abstained from voting. The motion was so carried. 5 Botts Court James and Victoria MacMillan. presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a landing and steps with a railing to the back door of their home at 5 Botts Court. The deck and stairs are to be stained with the same brown color as on the front deck. The bannister and trim will be painted the same white color as on the front deck. Chairman Harris stated that the colors are remaining as existing. Mr. Slam . asked the dimensions of the ballasters . Mr. Richard Stevens; contractor for the applicants, stated that the ballasters will be 1 1/4 x 1 1/4 . Mr. Slam asked about the spacing. Ms . MacMillan stated that it could be done to match the Newhall Nursing Home sample. Mr. Stevens stated that there will be 4 x 4 fir posts with a similar cap. Mr. Slam felt the spacing should be less than the. sample. Chairman Harris stated that the spacing should match the spacing on • the front porch. Mr. Slam asked if the top rail will be the same as the sample. Ms . • November 20, 1991, Page 3 MacMillan replied in the affirmative. Chairman Harris asked if the spacing and rail should match the front porch. Ms . MacMillan replied in the affirmative, .but stated that there will be no wrought iron rail on the steps . Mr. Hedstrom made a motion to approve the landing, steps and railing as submitted with the spacing, design, dimensions and painting to match those on the front porch. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Stanton abstained from voting. Chairman Harris requested that the application for 54 Turner Street be placed at the end of the public hearings . Mr. Carr excused himself from the meeting at this time. 3 Eaton Place Richard Savickey presented an application for a Certificate of Hardship, Appropriateness and Non-applicability for the alteration of an existing secondary egress at the rear of 3 Eaton Place. Drawings were provided of the completed work. Pictures showing • what is visible from the public way were shown. Mr. Savickey stated that the previous exits were illegal exits that have been now changed to meet the building code for his legal 6 unit building. Mr. Savickey noted that the staircase was altered a few years ago. Chairman Harris stated that the side staircase was not there when the district was formed and showed a picture of the house at that time, concluding that the work was done without Salem Historical Commission approval . Chairman Harris also concluded that if the rear staircase was altered a few years ago, then it had been done after the district was formed and without Historic Commission approval . Chairman Harris stated that she would like a site visit to see what is visible. Mr. Oedel made a motion to continue the applications . Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Savickey stated that he could not make the next two meetings as he will be out of town. Ms . Guy stated that Mr. Savickey could send a written authorization to waive the requirement . that Commission action be taken within 60 days and to request that the applications be continued until the first January meeting. . Mr. Savickey was in agreement. • Mr. Carr returned to the meeting at this time. • November 20, 1991, Page 4 54 Turner Street The House of Seven Gables Settlement Association presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for partial demolition of the existing Visitors ' Center, Coffee Shop and toilets and for the construction of a new Education Center, Museum Shop and cultural space as an addition to the remaining portion of the existing Visitors ' Center at 54 Turner Street. The application is also for a kitchen addition to the Retire Beckett House. Chairman Harris read letters in favor of the application from Thomas McLean Griffin and Campbell Seamans . Edith Harman., Executive Director of the House of Seven Gables Settlement, Attorney John Serafini, Joe Axenrod, House of Seven Gables Board of Trustees member and Brett Donham of Donham and Sweeney Architects represented the House of Seven Gables Settlement. Ms . Harman presented 'a statement regarding the Long Range Planning Committee. Mr. Serafini stated that the objective at this point is to explain the project and to see how these plans comply with the Salem • Historical Commission. Mr. Serafini stated that the next step is the Board of Appeal and the Planning Board. Mr. Serafini noted that most of the neighbors concerns will be appropriately addressed at these meetings and that there is plenty of time to address the concerns . Mr. Serafini stated that they are looking for a consensus from the Commission on the conceptual plans that the design, etc. meets with the Commission' s standards . Mr. Serafini noted that the House of Seven Gables is part of a system that pulls visitors into the City. Ms . Harman stated that they have expanded the education program for school groups for the off-season. Ms . Harman stated that the proposed design will provide facilities to serve these groups, who generate income to support the human services programs . Mr. Axenrod stated that the House of Seven Gables needs to do a better job of handling tourists, specifically regarding building inadequacies . Mr. Axenrod added that everything the House of Seven Gables does is paid for by the tourists, including the maintenance on the buildings, etc . Mr. Axenrod further stated that they need to think of the building in a fiscally responsible manner. Mr. Serafini stated that the Board"members are the most sensitive as to how the buildings need to be maintained as well as the needs of the mission. • Mr. Donham provided new drawings and described the details of the site plan. There is a loss of 3 parking spaces . There will no longer be busses on the site in the summer. One half of the square • November 20, 1991, Page 5 footage of the new Education Center will be underground. Mr. Donham showed the two previous site plans and described how the design has evolved. Mr. Donham provided sketches with views from various vantage points . Mr. Donham presented a model of the proposed project. Mr. Oedel asked if the scale of the model was correct. Mr. Donham stated that he believed it was and that most of the work was done from drawings . Chairman Harris asked if there will be venting, etc. coming from the roof. Mr. Donham stated that he was .not sure and that it had not been designed. Mr. Donham provided material samples and stated that an electrical transformer will be needed. Mr. Donham explained the proposed exterior lighting. Mr. Donham stated that he felt the design is appropriate in size, scale, materials and form. Mr. Donham added that the design does not try to copy historic buildings but is sympathetic. Mr. Oedel asked about the connection between the Education Center and the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Donham stated that it would be two wood trusses with a glass roof. Mr. Donham stated that it was important during inclement weather to keep feet dry in order to • protect the floors of the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Donham added that they do not want the connection to touch the House of Seven Gables building. Mr. Carr asked if there would be any other electric utilities, etc . or other mechanical items needed that are not on the plan. Mr. Donham stated that . there is nothing else at the current level of development. Mr. Donham stated that if they find something else is needed, they would review it with the Commission. Mr. Carr asked that the mechanicals be further described and the extent of their visibility be explained. Mr. Donham so described the mechanicals and stated that the roof mechanicals would be screened by a ballastrade. Mr. Donham stated that they are trying to keep is the least visible by dropping the ceiling height. Mr. Casey asked if the Commission would be considering window details and lighting tonight. Mr. Carr stated that those would be further down the road. Mr. Carr did not feel that anything should be voted on tonight. Mr. Serafini asked if it were possible to have the Commission members work with the House of Seven Gables representatives between now and the next meeting so as to be able to progress more for the next meeting. Chairman Harris suggested that each member give some feedback now. Mr. Slam stated that while he would like to digest it more, he would like to give some feedback to the applicant on the concept so that they can move • forward with some design work. Chairman Harris asked if anyone in the public would like to speak • November 20, 1991, Page 6 on the application. David Bystrom of 42 Turner Street stated that he was surprised at the size of the Education Center and felt it was larger than anticipated. Mr. Bystrom stated that he had concerns of parking, the loss of views, the gaining of views of roof mechanics, etc. and traffic . Mr. Serafini stated that parking issues would be addressed at the Board of Appeals and Planning Board. Mr. Bystrom felt that the proposed work would change the character drastically and felt the building was quite large. Chairman Harris asked the square footage of the first floor. Mr. Donham stated that it will be 7000 s . f . from approximately 2000 s . f . Mr. Donham added that they will not be removing any grass and that there will no longer be busses parked on the site. Chairman Harris asked if the landscaping would be changing. Mr. Donham explained some minor changes and 'stated that they will be taking out the egress near the Bystrom' s house. • Mr. Carr stated that the existing locust trees have a high type screening and asked if there were any plans to replicate that feeling. Mr. Donham stated that it had not been discussed yet. Chairman Harris asked if they were keeping the big Linden. Mr. Donham replied in the affirmative and added that they.will also be keeping the second tree. Mr. Donham stated that they will be loosing three trees. Anthony Iwanicki of 47 Turner Street asked if there will be any exit onto Turner Street. Mr. Donham stated that the first entrance will remain but that the third will come out. Mr. Donham stated that there are 3 exits now and that there will only be one. Debbie Bystrom of 42 Turner Street felt that there was enough growth of tourism and that people come into her house now looking for the site. Ms. Bystrom stated that the noise will be unbearable. Mr. Serafini stated that these concerns will be' addressed prior to the Board of Appeal and Planning Board meetings because they intend to meet with the neighbors prior in order to get their concerns and try to accommodate them. Mr. Bystrom stated that the neighbors don't want the expansion. • Chairman Harris stated that the Commission can only deal with massing, materials and design issues and that parking issues, etc . are not within the Commission' s jurisdiction. • November 20, 1991, Page 7 Mrs . Sawicki of 39 Turner Street stated that too many buildings will take away from the House of Seven Gables . Mrs . Sawicki stated that people feel that the current entrance is the House of Seven Gables now. Gary Stirgwolt of 17 Andrew Street stated that he has watched over the last few months how the Building Committee has scaled down the building based on historic neighborhood concerns . Mr. Carr felt the public hearing should end here and pick up at the next meeting. Mr. Slam stated that he would like to hear some of the member' s input. Ms . Guy suggested that each member provide their initial reactions . Mr. Slam felt that the design has come far from the previous design and that they have done well with the massing. Mr. Slam stated that he had a concern now with having a whole bunch of buildings and that the front entrance still bothers him. Mr. Stanton felt the design successfully addresses the issues of massing and that the roof lines have been appropriately addressed. Mr. Stanton was concerned with the portico and plexiglass cover. • Mr. Hedstrom 'stated that he liked the scale with the neighborhood housing and liked the clustering of the small buildings . Mr. Hedstrom was concerned with the transom light configuration around the eaves of the first floor up Turner Street, the 4 over 1 windows, the plexiglass, and the wall lighting. Mr. Casey 'stated that he liked the clustering and feel of varying degrees of roof lines and chimney. Mr. Casey had concerns over the 4. over 1 windows and utilitarian aspect of the lights . Mr. Casey stated that he liked the "looking through" method. Mr. Carr stated that he was impressed by the scaling down of the long barn look. Mr. Carr was concerned with the density. Mr. Carr stated that there are interesting congested spaces with interesting roof lines but that what was there is less dense and therefore the tone would change. Mr. Carr has concerns with the front entrance and the transition from the Education Center to the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Carr stated that the roof mechanicals must not be visible. Mr. Cook stated that aesthetically sympathetic changes have been made. Mr. Oedel stated that the roof lines were nice work and that he had no problem with the clustering feel since it is an urban area that had been more densely packed in previous history than .the present. Mr. Oedel was concerned with the transformer, the connection to the House of Seven Gables, the exterior lights, the items such as • November 20, 1991, Page 8 flagpoles and signage, the mechanicals on the- flat roof and the venting through the roof . Mr. Oedel added that the landscaping issues may become critical and that he had concerns with the fenestration and entranceway. Chairman Harris agreed with Mr. Oedel that the density was appropriate. Chairman Harris stated that she was most concerned with the entry treatment and would prefer some more older details such as on the windows and fenestration. Chairman Harris was concerned with the transformer and the light fixtures . Chairman Harris stated that she would like to talk more about the roof material and that she would like manufactured slate considered. . Chairman Harris would also like more details on the mechanical roof equipment, the types and placement of windows, signs, fencing and rubbish disposal . Chairman Harris stated that they need to go over the kitchen details of the Retire Beckett House. Mr. Donham stated that he would like to know soon if the project concept is viable. Mr.. Donham stated that he cannot do the expensive engineering work without knowing that the concept is approved. Mr. Oedel stated that he felt there should not be vents, rubbish • removal, transformers, etc . visible on site and that they should consider that in the early stages of the design. Mr. Carr stated . that things which typically come up at the end should be foreseen in the beginning. Mr. Donham asked for more guidance on the entrance. Mr. Donham stated that they require the entrance be marked clearly so visitors will know how to get into the building. Mr. Donham stated that they also need to provide weather protection on the steps . Mr. Cook left the meeting at this time. Mr. Carr, felt the entrance was oversized and looked like a terminal . Mr. Carr felt it did not relate to the surrounding buildings . Chairman Harris stated that the design of the entranceway should not just consider architecture but also signage, landscaping and paving. Mr: Carr made a motion to continue the application. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 124 Federal Street • Alyce Goodman presented an application for a Certificate of Non- applicability to reglaze the front windows and to repaint the • November 20, 1991, Page 9 McIntyre entryway, front windows and front doors . All paint will match existing paint colors . Mr. Carr made a motion to approve the application as submitted. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 8 Chestnut Street Dr. Janice LeBel presented an application for a Certificate of Non- applicability to construct a deck in the back yard. Ms . Guy stated that Dr. LeBel stated that the deck has already been constructed and that it is not visible from the public way. Mr. Carr abstained from the discussion. Mr. Slam stated that he would like to see the site. Mr. Hedstrom was in agreement. Chairman Harris requested that the application be placed on the next agenda. • 7 River Street John and Carol Carr presented an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to erect a solid board fence to replace the stockade fence at 7 River Street. The fence is to be identical to the side fence at 123 Federal St. The application is also to replace the black asphalt roof shingles with fire-rated, natural cedar roof shingles with exposure to be 5" , likely to be completed in two phases with completion in Spring. The application is also to paint the front door to match the green color on the doors at Old Town Hall in Marblehead or the green color to the front door at 120 Federal St. Sketches and photographs were submitted. Also submitted was a list of signatures from abutters waiving the right to a public hearing. Mr. Slam felt that a member of the Commission circulating a petition pressures the homeowner into signing it and felt that this should not be done in the future. Mr. Slam felt that a plain flatboard fence was more appropriate within the context of this modest house. Mr'. Carr stated that he has one at the rear lot line, but that it is claustrophobic. Mr. Oedel felt the .columns were too high and asked if Mr. Carr could go with 5 ' . Mr. Carr stated that he preferred not to. Mr. Oedel preferred no pillars and stated that the posts will blow it out of scale. Mr. Oedel motioned to waive the public hearing for the roof and to • November 20, 1991, Page 10 approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for the roof material change. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. Mr. Oedel motioned to waive the public hearing for the front door and to approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for the paint color. Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. Mr. Oedel stated that he would be willing to issue a Certificate of Non-applicability to repair the existing fence. Mr. Carr so requested a Certificate of Non-applicability. Mr. Oedel made a motion to approve a Certificate of Non- applicability to repair the existing fence. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. Mr. Carr also presented an application for a Certificate of Non- Applicability to repaint the front door in the existing Hamilton Blue in case they decide not to change the color. • Mr. Oedel made a motion to approve a Certificate of Non- applicability for the front door repainting. Mr. Stanton seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained from voting. The fence portion of the application will be placed on the appropriate upcoming agenda for a regular public meeting. 115 Federal Street Ms . Guy stated that this property' s application for fence alteration is scheduled for the next public meeting, but that the owners would like permission to remove the existing fence and: install underground footings for the new fence before that time. Mr. Carr motioned to waive the public hearing for demolition and to approve the fence demolition providing that the homeowner take adequate photographic documentation of the fence prior to its removal . The motion is also conditional that a replacement fence is approved or else the existing fence will have to be reconstructed. Mr. Slam seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Hedstrom abstained from voting. Other Business Ms . Guy stated that the State Board of Building Regulations and • Standards will .be considering an amendment to the State Building Code which would require building officials to enforce only those statutes enacted by the Commonwealth. Massachusetts Historical November 20, 1991, Page 11 Commission has provided the Commission with information which explains that such an amendment could allow Salem' s building officials not to have to enforce the Demolition Delay Ordinance. There will be a meeting on Tuesday, November 26, 1991 at the State Board of Building Regulations and Standards . Ms ., Guy will send a letter on behalf of the Commission in opposition of the amendment. City Solicitor Kevin Daly sent a letter stating that a deposition of Mr. Donald Wallace concerning 174 Federal Street has been , completed and that Mr. Wallace has indicated that he would like to offer the removal of two of the skylights . Mr. Wallace would like to retain the two skylights on the westerly side of the building closest to Federal Street. Commission members will drive by the house and the issue will be discussed at the next meeting. Ms . Guy stated that Mr. Slam provided her with the bank information for the properties at 10 Chestnut Street and 331 Essex Street. Mr. Stanton will draft a letter to the banks from the Commission. Ms . Guy stated that a letter was sent to the Board of Appeal from the Commission concerning 393 Essex Street. There being no further business, Mr. Slam made a motion to adjourn. • Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, JaA. Guy C1 k of the Commission JG\JG\112091 • • December 4, 1991, Page 1 SALEM HISTORICAL COMMISSION MINUTES DECEMBER 4 , 1991 A regular meeting of the Salem Historical Co ission was held on December 4, 1991 at 7 : 30 PM at One Salem Gr4en, Salem MA. In attendance were Chairman Harris, Mr. Carr, Mr. Oedel, Mr. Stanton, Mr. Casey, Mr. Cook, Mr. Hedstrom and Ms . Guy. 115 Federal Street Darleen Melis and Irving Ingraham applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the removal of a damaged fence at the head of the driveway at 115 Federal Street to be replaced with a similar fence. Drawings were submitted. The fence will be 60" high at the top rail . Ms . Melis stated that she would like the option to reed all of the posts to match the front door reeding. Mr. Carr motioned to accept the replacement of the fence proposed in the drawings submitted including the option for the posts of the fence to match the front door reeding. The fence is to be sixty • inches high at the top rail, wooden, to be painted as proposed. Mr. Cook seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Hedstrom abstained. 3 Eaton Place Richard Savickey applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness, Hardship and Non-Applicability for the alteration of a rear staircase. This application is a continuation from the last meeting. Ms Guy stated that the applicant has requested another continuation until the January 8, 1992 meeting. Mr. Hedstrom motioned to continue the application until January 8, 1992 . Mr. Carr second the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Chairman Harris asked Ms . Guy to check and see Eaton Place is a plowed City street. 8 Chestnut Street Dr. Janice L. LeBel applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the construction of a deck in the back yard of 8 Chestnut Street. • Mr. Cook motioned for the reconstruction of the deck in the back yard provided that it is not to be visible from any public way. • December 4 , 1991, Page 2 Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Mr. Carr abstained. 395 Essex Street Roland Audette applied for a Certificate of Non-Applicability for the repainting of the house at 395 Essex Street in existing colors during 1992 . Mr. Carr motioned to approve the application for the repainting of the house in existing colors during 1992 . Mr. Hedstrom seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 120 Federal Street D. P. Lebovici and M. K. S. Twohey applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness the replacement of a fence between 120 and 116/118 Federal Street. The application is for the same replacement fencing which was approved at the November 6 , 1991 meeting. However, the applicants are requesting reconsideration on the condition that the fence must be painted. Mrs . Twohey stated that she does not want the fence to be painted • and that the fence looks like it belongs to 116/118 Federal Street which is unpainted. Mr. Carr stated that because the posts are on the 116/118 Federal Street property it reads like the fence belongs to 116/118 Federal Street. Mr. Stanton stated that if it reads like it belongs to 116/118 Federal, then he suggests that it be painted to coordinate with the house on 116/118 Federal Street. Mr. Jim Bailey of 116/118 Federal Street stated that they are replacing a fence that is currently unpainted. Mr. Cook motioned for the construction of the fence as proposed. Fence is to be unpainted. Mr. Casey seconded the motion. Chairman Harris and Messrs . Cook, Oedel, Casey, Carr and Hedstrom voted in favor. Mr. Stanton voted in opposition. The motion was so carried. 6 High Street Steve C. Ingemi, Trustee Margin Street Realty Trust applied for a Waiver of Demolition Delay Ordinance for the complete demolition of the building, foundation and garage at 6 High Street and to fill in • the cellar hole to the existing ground grade in order to create a larger parking lot for Steve ' s Market. • December 4 , 1991, Page 3 Mr. Carr stated that the purpose of a Demolition Delay Ordinance is to slow things down to give the owner time to consider this permanent condition. Mr. Carr stated that the area has lost many houses except on High Street and that he sees no reason to rush the process . Mr. Carr stated that the commission recently denied the same type of application on Crombie Street. Mr. Carr felt that the applicant would not just be taking down the house but the neighborhood as well . He further stated that this house plays an important part of that dense neighborhood and he does not see any reason to rush the process . Chairman Harris asked if the proposed plans for angled parking on Gedney Street will help address his parking needs . Mr. Ingemi stated that the garage and house are in deplorable condition and suggested that the commission visit the site. Chairman Harris asked if the members would like a site visit. Messrs . Carr, Casey and Hedstrom preferred a site visit. All members agreed to conduct a site visit on Sunday, December 15, 1991 at 9 : 30 AM. Mr. Casey stated that he would like some research done on the • property and will try to get some data from the Essex Institute. Mr. Oedel motioned to continue the application until the next meeting. Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. 54 Turner Street The House of Seven Gables Settlement Association applied for a Certificate of Appropriateness for the partial demolition of the existing Visitors ' Center, Coffee Shop and toilets, Construction of a new Educational Center, Museum Shop and Cultural space as an addition to the remaining portion of the existing Visitors ' Center and a kitchen addition to the Retire Becket House. This is a continuation from the last meeting. Attorney John Serafini, representing the House of Seven Gables, stated that they would like to get a conditional certificate to enable them to begin to appear before other boards . Mr. Brett Donham, the architect, stated that he has proposed five locations for the transformer but does not know as yet as to what is feasible with the electric company and the electrical engineer. Mr. Donham showed the commission the five locations, including two underground locations for the transformer. Mr. Donham stated that • he is not confident that underground transformers are viable. An above ground unit is approximately 3 ' x 3 'x 3 ' . • December 4 , 1991, Page 4 Mr. Cook stated that locating the transformer in the green space between Phippen and the Retire Becket House would be the least obtrusive followed by the location next to the Bystrom' s house. Mr. Carr asked if the unit would give off any noise and stated that he was concerned how it would effect the Bystroms . Mr. Donham stated that there would be a slight hum and that an underground transformer would have the noise of the pump in stormy weather. FRONT ENTRANCE : Mr. Donham showed the previous designs that were first considered before those which were seen by the commission. Mr. Donham presented six sketches of possibilities for the entrance. Mr. Donham presented drawings of what is preferred and stated that the proposal picks up on some elements of the House of Seven Gables . Mr. Donham stated that they will have to rethink the sign issues . He reminded the Commission that the entrance needs more of a generosity of a public building. FENESTRATION: Mr. Donham stated that they eliminated the barn like windows and • changed the window configuration to double hung windows with paired lights above. Mr. Hedstrom left the meeting at this time. Mr. Carr stated that he was concerned with the fenestration pattern going into the ground. Mr. Donham stated that he will design vents, exhausts, etc. so they will not be seen but that the peak of the glass skylight might be seen over the stairway. He further stated that the same landscape archictects who do the gardens will do the front design and that he will bring in more details later. Mr. Donham then showed catalogue cuts of various light fixtures and stated that he felt building mounted fixtures are the most appropriate. Mr. Donham also stated that he is considering the connection to the House of Seven Gables will appear as a trellis with flat glass, roof with vines, etc . Mr. Bystrom asked about a dumpster for rubbish. Mr. Donham stated that there will not be a dumpster and all rubbish will be stored in two areas which he indicated. Mr. Casey asked if the one over one windows are functional . Mr. Donham replied in the affirmative. Chairman Harris asked if the Retired Becket House addition will • December 4, 1991, Page 5 have vertical siding. Mr. Donham replied in the affirmative and stated that it will be a continuation of the existing addition. Chairman Harris asked the Commission members if the footprint and massing could be approved. Mr. Bystom stated that he feels the building is still quite large especially toward the House of Seven Gables and that the existing view of the house from most places will be lost. Chairman Harris stated that historically there would have been more houses along Turner Street. Mrs . Bystrom stated that she is concerned with the loss of trees which would hurt the character. Mr. Stanton stated that he thinks the changes were very well done although he is not ready-to pass at this on them at this time. Mr. Carr stated that he feels that any approval of footprint should be substantial approval only. Mr. Steve Whittier of River Street stated that he is concerned with • the glass being introduced into an historical property and stated he feels that glass is excessive and the design is too massive. Mr. Oedel motioned to approve, in concept, the general footprint, rooflines and elevations from plans submitted on December 4 , 1991 . Mr. Oedel noted that the approval does not include specific architectural details, materials, the overall design of the main entryway, the design of the connection from the education center to the House of Seven Gables, windows, window replacement, lighting, landscaping, transformers or other mechanical items and that a preliminary certificate is to be issued only to facilitate the other required approval processes . Mr. Cook seconded the motion. Mr. Carr stated that in the current view, the House of Seven Gables dominates the site and that a new design is as good as possible. The motion was voted on. All were in favor and the motioned so carried. Mr. Carr motioned to continue the application. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Chairman Harris stated that she is still undecided on window treatment and would like the design to be a little less institutional on the approach. Mr. Carr stated that he feels the diversity of fenestration may be carried to an extreme. • December 4, 1991, Page 6 Mrs . Bystrom stated that she would not want the transformer next to her house. Mr. Stanton stated that he likes the window treatment of three jogs and feels it is not bland and does not overpower. He likes the entry as it has been lowered and prefers that the transformer be placed by the Phippen House location and agrees that the lighting should be against the building. Mr. Casey stated that he feels the landscaping is an important part and that the commission needs to realize that when they are looking at the entry, etc. Chairman Harris stated that she would like to see the details softer for the entryway by layering details as one would on older buildings . Mr. Carr stated that he is concerned with the thinness of the beams at the entrance and the gap between the pillars and beams . OTHER BUSINESS 393 Essex Street - Ms . Guy read a letter from the Zoning Board of • Appeals regarding the pavement at 393 Essex and stated that the Commission needs to send notice to the Zoning Enforcement Officer. Ms . Guy will arrange for notice to be sent. 174 Federal Street - Ms Guy stated that Mr. Daly has indicated that Mr. Wallace would like to be able to keep the skylight in the bathroom. Mr. Carr stated that the Commission should stand with the prior settlement offer. All were in agreement. 80 Derby Street - Ms . Guy took pictures of the items that were complained about by the neighbors of 80 Derby Street and has heard that the bank now owns the building. Ms . Guy is to send a letter to the bank. Ms . Guy stated that the Commission received a copy of a letter from the MDPW concerning the Salem-Beverly Transportation project. Mr. Oedel motioned to approve the minutes of November 20, 1991 . Mr. Carr seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Ms . Guy is to draft a letter to Mass . Electric regarding the Chestnut Street lighting. January Meetings - It was voted that the January meetings will be held on January 8, 1991 and January 22 , 1992 . Mr. Casey asked if there was money in the Historic Commission' s December 4 , 1991, Page 7 budget to pay for historic research to be done on 6 High Street. Ms . Guy will place the Bertram Home on the next agenda that the House of Seven Gables isn't on. There being no further business Mr. Cook motioned adjourn. Mr. Oedel seconded the motion. All were in favor and the motion so carried. Respectfully submitted, Deborah A. Guy JG\JG\120491 • or f 25070 YELLOW 25071 BLACK - 25072 LIGHT BLUE 25073 DARK BLUE 25074 LIGHT GRAY 25075 LIGHT GREEN 25076 DARK GREEN 25077 TANGERINE 25078 °RED 25079 EXECUTIVE RED WITH WATER RESISTANT COVERS ACCO, (mn ACCO INTERNATIONAL INC. �LL{II ILIII CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 60619 a ,n